So what's the best type of frame sliders we should be getting for our new gixxers? I am a rookie rider too my biggest fear would be dropping the bike on its side by accident? What kinda of sliders should I get that will minimize the damage? Cut or No Cut?... I am so confused!... Thanks in advance.

Cut would definitely be the way to go. Not even sure if you have to cut for the K8's as they're so new. :scratch but I assume so

Most brands will all act the same as long as they are made of delrin. "No cut" sliders add an extra bracket that can flex and bend. I personally have woodcrafts on my '06 and have "tested" shoguns. Just remember that frame sliders were meant to protect your FRAME and not your FAIRINGS...saving fairings is just an added bonus.

Check out the Race Railz from www.powersstuntworx.com

Check out the Race Railz from www.powersstuntworx.com

hmmm these railz look really good. I'll look into these.

any other recommendations???

ask place u buying bike from, they should set u right direction

I will be going woodcraft of LSL.

Sliders are useless if you are worryed about dropping it. droping it is like crashing. DONT

R&G!

I have used and tested Shogun, Woodcraft, Vortex and Motovation.

"Cut" sliders are better, but to say "No-cut sliders are shit" is a little ridiculous. I have tested Shogun no-cut sliders twice and both times they worked great and minimized damaged tremendously.

I dont like the Motovation because they are too long. In a lowside, when you get off the track and onto the grass, the longer sliders will dig into the ground and possibly cause the bike to flip, causing more damage.

Personally, my favorites are the Woodcraft and Vortex 2-piece cut sliders. That is why I use on my race bikes. But if you dont want to cut the fairings on your street bikes, the Shogun no-cuts do the job sufficiently.

cut sliders are the best

cut sliders are the best

Great post :thumbup

I have the no-cut Shoguns and I'm happy with them. To me it seems a little silly to buy sliders to protect the fairings and then cut holes in the fairings to install them. Kinda defeats the purpose in a way. But what do I know, I'm a little weird.

I have the no-cut Shoguns and I'm happy with them. To me it seems a little silly to buy sliders to protect the fairings and then cut holes in the fairings to install them. Kinda defeats the purpose in a way. But what do I know...

Obviously not much.

Since they are FRAME sliders and not FAIRING sliders...cutting the fairings to install them directly in the frame, so they can better protect the FRAME serves the purpose perfectly.

Damn. :dissapointed

Definetly cut. I put Suzuki's black cut sliders on my 750, they have a lower profile and don't stick out too much. All you need is hole saw and you can do it yourself, they won't crack. Sliders will prevent damage to the fairings and frame in a kickstand accident, but won't do much in any kind of moving accident.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/GSX-R750/2008/GSXR750/Accessories/Bolt-On%20Items/K6-K8%20GSX-R750_600%20Chassis%20Protectors.aspx?ProductView=t rue

I have the no-cut Shoguns and I'm happy with them. To me it seems a little silly to buy sliders to protect the fairings and then cut holes in the fairings to install them. Kinda defeats the purpose in a way. But what do I know, I'm a little weird.

:spit :lol Guess you bought your sliders for a different reason then everyone else bought them for. And yes i have cut sliders and could care less that i had to cut my fairings to install them.

I currently have the Shogun "no cuts". This is my second bike with no cuts and I really don't want to get into "which is better"...but, my first bike (R6) was dropped by me twice (both in the garage), dropped once by my son @ 15 mph,backed into and knocked over by the wife in her van, and laid down at 130 mph on the track. I especially like the way they handled on the track. They held up and did their job to the best of their ability..for the speed I was going, I was impressed...the one in the pic was the Lockhart Phillips brand.

I have the no-cut Shoguns and I'm happy with them. To me it seems a little silly to buy sliders to protect the fairings and then cut holes in the fairings to install them. Kinda defeats the purpose in a way. But what do I know, I'm a little weird.

The woodcraft cut sliders actually stick out of the fairing perfectly so they look like they could have come on the bike stock. Also you can replace just the head of the slider for like 15 bucks without having to replace the whole thing for like 70.

The "best" frame sliders depend on the crash and the 39847539798 variables that go with the crash. You really can't go wrong by getting any of the well known brands. the crash determines which frame sliders are the best as you can't have a frame slider be the best for every single crash and all of the variables. It's a safeguard and nothing more. Too often people over think it. Get what makes sense to you and makes the most sense in terms of physics as that's what it comes down to.

Sliders are useless if you are worryed about dropping it. droping it is like crashing. DONT

Brilliant!!!!









:banghead:scratch

I have the no-cut Shoguns and I'm happy with them. To me it seems a little silly to buy sliders to protect the fairings and then cut holes in the fairings to install them. Kinda defeats the purpose in a way. But what do I know, I'm a little weird.

my buddy lowsided at 30 mph with no cut sliders... the left slider/bolt bent CAUSING the left fairing to crack.... guess what brand no cut sliders he had???

my buddy lowsided at 30 mph with no cut sliders... the left slider/bolt bent CAUSING the left fairing to crack.... guess what brand no cut sliders he had???

...and I lowsided at 60mph and the Shogun No-cuts saved alot of damage and money (and were probably the only thing that kept my bike from being totalled).

Like Corey said, every wreck is different. I have had enough of them to know that you can't reason with/justify/explain why shit happens or doesnt happen in a wreck.

In case you haven't fucking realized it yet, they are FRAME sliders...not FAIRING sliders.

I would bet your buddy's sliders did exactly what they are supposed to do...protect the frame.

Woodcraft cut sliders is the way to go. If you want maximum protection, best looks (in my opinion), overall "Best" woodcraft cut sliders. The reason for the cut is so they can utilize the bolt directly without having to use a plate or bracket to go around the fairing. Much more stable.

does anyone have any experience with race railz? They look particularly attractive due to the fact that it protects the frame as well as the fairing.

OEM Suzuki work just fine, I like them because they don't stick out really far. And they are simple looking, but damnit they do the job.

does anyone have any experience with race railz? They look particularly attractive due to the fact that it protects the frame as well as the fairing.

they have a tendency of catching and causing more problems than good

Great post :thumbup

i copied off you :punk

neway... i have R&G, the quality is amazing.

Id say stay away from the race railz cause if I remember correct the pucks are metal.

even if the pucks are not metal the bar sticking way out is...

how do you cut the fairing? well what do you use to cut it?

how do you cut the fairing? well what do you use to cut it?

you can put the bike up on a rear stand, level ground, remove fairing, and use a laser pointer and shine it straight on the bolt hole, put fairing back on, and you have a dot right where your center is for drilling, you can also use a silly putty trick, but i havent so i dont know if it would work or not, back the frame bolt out so its just about touching the fairing from the inside, then put putty on the fairing, and press, you now should have a bolt impression on the inside of the fairing, where you have to drill...

I have R&G, and it fits in the predrilled hole for the right, but i had to drill the left side, i used the laser method and it worked great.

I have a hole saw here at my house, with bits that cut a circle, and then i sanded the edges to make it smoother. You could also use a dremel tool i suppose. Im sure there is a write up or how to somewhere on the site...

Hope my rambling helped...

cut sliders are the best

guys what is the difference! cut or no cut? im heaps confuzzled

guys what is the difference! cut or no cut? im heaps confuzzled

Cut sliders require you to "cut" the fairings, and no-cuts do not.

Cut or no-cut. I think its pretty self-explaniatory :dunno

Right now i got the Intuitive Racing ones, IMO this no cut seems slightly better design then some of the other not cuts ive seen around. The right side bolts directly into the same spot as the cut ones (without cutting of course), the left side there is a thick CNC machined aluminum bracket that bolts in 3 places. One of the bolts goes in the big hex one that the no cuts normally sit at and the other 2 are the frame bolts that the normally holding a bracket where the horn is. I don't like the fact that the Shogun ones only have 1 bolt holding the whole thing and 2 aluminum pegs that sandwich the frame cross member, it looks like if it fell hard enough the pegs would break off and cause the whole slider to rotate.

Cut or no-cut. I think its pretty self-explaniatory :dunno

That's what I was thinking also :dunno

Right now i got the Intuitive Racing ones, IMO this no cut seems slightly better design then some of the other not cuts ive seen around. The right side bolts directly into the same spot as the cut ones (without cutting of course), the left side there is a thick CNC machined aluminum bracket that bolts in 3 places. One of the bolts goes in the big hex one that the no cuts normally sit at and the other 2 are the frame bolts that the normally holding a bracket where the horn is. I don't like the fact that the Shogun ones only have 1 bolt holding the whole thing and 2 aluminum pegs that sandwich the frame cross member, it looks like if it fell hard enough the pegs would break off and cause the whole slider to rotate.

The Shogun no-cuts are like that. The bolt mounts directly against the cross member of the frame. In an impact the slider would absorb the damage with the frame directly behind it...just like the cut ones do.

The Shogun no-cuts are like that. The bolt mounts directly against the cross member of the frame. In an impact the slider would absorb the damage with the frame directly behind it...just like the cut ones do.

No, what i meant was the shogun one only as 1 fastener on their bracket to the frame which to me seemed a little weird to have no other bolting point. It would look like if it landed hard, the pegs on the shogun bracket would break and the slider would rotate since it doesn't have any other fastening point.

No, what i meant was the shogun one only as 1 fastener on their bracket to the frame which to me seemed a little weird to have no other bolting point. It would look like if it landed hard, the pegs on the shogun bracket would break and the slider would rotate since it doesn't have any other fastening point.

I didnt read all of your previous post.

I feel differently. The Shogun no-cuts look like they would hold up very well in a crash. I have personally crash tested them on previous bikes and they held up great...and the newer design looks even stronger.

I didnt read all of your previous post.

I feel differently. The Shogun no-cuts look like they would hold up very well in a crash. I have personally crash tested them on previous bikes and they held up great...and the newer design looks even stronger.

Oh i wasn't even aware of the newer designed, i just have seen the single bolt dual pegged bracket ones.

Anyone think this is an overkill?

I had the woodcrafts but i liked the LSL for their looks. What a dumb a$$.

Remove the LSL's before they rip the bolts out of the cases when you go down.

LSL makes great products, but the only product i'll openly say isn't a very good design is their no cut frame sliders for the 06-09 GSXR 600/750. If those little bolts strip out or rip out you'll wish you never had them in stalled (as rraider pointed out). Everything else lsl produces is great quality though.

Definetly cut. I put Suzuki's black cut sliders on my 750, they have a lower profile and don't stick out too much. All you need is hole saw and you can do it yourself, they won't crack. Sliders will prevent damage to the fairings and frame in a kickstand accident, but won't do much in any kind of moving accident.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/Product%20Lines/Cycles/Products/GSX-R750/2008/GSXR750/Accessories/Bolt-On%20Items/K6-K8%20GSX-R750_600%20Chassis%20Protectors.aspx?ProductView=t rue

Definetly nice sliders
I have a couple sets of these brand new if anyone is interested.

$58 shipped :punk


http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c342/onehighfocus/sliders.jpg

even if the pucks are not metal the bar sticking way out is...

agree with you i too must have

:lmao

i have a 08 gsxr 600, what type of sliders do i need so i can just bolt them up without having to cut the fairings? will i need to remove any fairingsto install also???

Anyone tried Puig frame Sliders?

Are there any fairing sliders that work on the K8?

Attaching the frame slider to the strongest mounting point possible will always provide the most protection.(Cut style) I had a friend lay down his 06 gsxr600 at around 35 once, the offset peice got pushed in and bent, it proceeded to gouge a hugh gash threw the vin plate.

Listen thats the only danger with no-cuts is if the offset bracket peirces something else behind it like most times your frame. Also like someone mentioned earlier the shorter it is the better for highspeed crashes. Used to shave mine down on the mill for the race bike.

I would recommend the Suzuki oem sliders, if you have an 08,600 you'll have to cut the left side. Also trashing the stunter cage styles, look into the engine covers w/ sliders built into them. Like the ones I had on my 06.

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/moke1k/100_0509.jpg

http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h187/moke1k/100_0510.jpg

If you don't want to cut the faring then you want what are called "no cut sliders". They will be the pucks like "cut" ones but they come with a metal bracket as well. You WILL have to take off the faring to install them but the metal bracket moves the puck over so you don't have to cut a hole.

I have the dealership throwing a set of no cuts on right now (bike is in for first service aka 1000km anyways). I was torn on cuts or no cuts and was like fuck if they will cut them for me when the faring is off, just throw a set on while you have the faring off anyways. The guy said no problem they put cuts on all the time. After I went over to the parts counter to buy a set, turns out all they had in stock for my bike was no cuts so that's the route I'm going. I'll post pictures as soon as I pick it up.

lets not forget TOP BLOCK make great gsxr sliders

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If you don't want to cut the faring then you want what are called "no cut sliders". They will be the pucks like "cut" ones but they come with a metal bracket as well. You WILL have to take off the faring to install them but the metal bracket moves the puck over so you don't have to cut a hole.

I have the dealership throwing a set of no cuts on right now (bike is in for first service aka 1000km anyways). I was torn on cuts or no cuts and was like fuck if they will cut them for me when the faring is off, just throw a set on while you have the faring off anyways. The guy said no problem they put cuts on all the time. After I went over to the parts counter to buy a set, turns out all they had in stock for my bike was no cuts so that's the route I'm going. I'll post pictures as soon as I pick it up.


Good luck with that, who better to take an example from then the people who crash the most,... professional roadracers? I have never seen a set of no-cuts as you call them, on any professional race bike. That should be proof enough, or atleast it is for me. My bikes never go anywhere w/out sliders, spools,fork sliders, bar-end sliders, engine covers w/sliders,folding levers, folding shifter, folding rear brake levers. These items save you money in the event of a crash. But go ahead with your no cuts.

They will be the pucks like "cut" ones but they come with a metal bracket as well. You WILL have to take off the faring to install them but the metal bracket moves the puck over so you don't have to cut a hole.


Thats the same metal bracket that gets pushed in towards the center of the bike then damages your frame. Or like on the R1s, your engine! Seen it before, and probably will again?

I already said you have to take the faring off for both :banghead

And yes like I said I was going to bite the bullet and buy cuts which they did not have, so no cuts it is.

Trust me these brackets aren't bending before you have frame failure ;) Just wait until I put my pictures up. Plus both style frame sliders will still allow engine damage, the stator cover never seems to come away without a nice road polish job. The frame sliders only keep the frame itself off the ground not your plastic/sides of engine/handlebars/windscreen.

I love my Motivation no cuts. The bracket is extremely heavy and well designed. They are kinda pricey.

i have the T-Rex no cut frame sliders. the bracket is really high quality but i'm just very unsure how the initial impact is going to go. seems like theres to much slider and it might just snap off.

http://www.rg-racing.com/

http://www.motovationusa.com

motovation's....I definitely recommend them. quality is superb and much more beefier. I got em for both my brothers for christmas, on my brothers K7 and on my younger bros R6

Anyone think this is an overkill?

I had the woodcrafts but i liked the LSL for their looks. What a dumb a$$.

id love to see a front angle shot of your bike to see how far those LSL sliders actually stick out

Shogun makes BOTH cut and no-cut sliders.
The pucks are UV resistant so they won't turn gray over time. Replacement parts are cheap and easy to come by as well. Best value for dollar.

*Edit
And both sides stick out the same distance and are the same height on the Shogun sliders. I had PP Tuning sliders on one of my bikes and one side stuck out like 2" more than the other side!

In my experience woodcraft and motovation (in that order) make high quality sliders.

Here are my sliders, Intuitive Racing no cuts and Sling Shot Racing stator sliders (i couldn't justify the woodcraft ones).

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b273/twinturboz/MY%20SUZUKI%20GSXR750/HPIM2723.jpg
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i would go with the 905 racing road armor! little bit more than just a single slider puck. more like a mini stunt cage. i think they look pretty sick. just ordered me some.

Anyone tried Puig frame Sliders?

I have the Puig ones in blue, very easy to fit, seem very strong and sturdy, plus they dont stick out a mile which is a bonus.

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/tyzer/P1000406-1.jpg

http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu28/tyzer/P1000405.jpg

I am using the Volar Motorsport Frame Sliders, drop my bike at around 30mph, these sliders get the job done. I am pretty happy with their quality. Got those from D2moto a year ago.

evotech i hear are pretty good