I bought my first Bike, a thousand, (i don't tip toe into the water i dive right in). I have heard of guys doing PRE mods, and TRE mods. I have a good idea what they do. I was wondering if there is a shoping list, and some instructions. Also, i have a power comander 3, but the disk the guy gave me is for a power comander 2, the disk dosn't have any maps in, i was told i can set them manualy if i can get a good map, so i'm also lookin for a good map. my bike is an 01' if that helps any buddy. please e-mail me if you have any info.

Good choice http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif I'm sure you did a lot of research and found out how good the bike is and how great it'll be for a new rider like you. I think a Mods that will be perfect for you will be:

pleanty of blinker fluid (can never have enough around)
Stickers (lot of em cause they do add a few HP each)
Polished rims (gotta have the bling thing)
Colored tires they just came out and you could be the first to have em around where you live.
take your pipe off run it with no muffler, GP racer have started to do it and it'll give you that extra power the 1K needs.
keep a few flex capastors on hand they alway go out.
Run race gas ALLWAYS no cheap stuff always good for 5-10 HP
Turbos and NOS work really good run the boost around 35psi anything under that aint even worth having and hit the NOS right away 1st gear WOT all the way to red line.

These are the best mods don't worry about gear flip flops and shorts are fine full gear is for pussy mother f**kers! Don't waste good money on gear spend it on Horse Power and I don't care what idiot tells you you should take a rider course don't listen they are full of it just get out there and ride it like your Maladin that the best way to learn. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

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We also need you to post your name, address, and Social Security Number. That's the only way we can get a life insurance policy going on you. With todays economy, no need to waste an opportunity like this to make some money.

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http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif just becasue i have all of that power with my first bike, doesn't mean i'm gonna use it, http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif yeah right.

Jar Jar says "Messa think yousa gonna die!"

yellowjacket81 said:

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif just becasue i have all of that power with my first bike, doesn't mean i'm gonna use it, http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif yeah right.





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everyone flames you and you deserve it but try not to die.
my insurance rates just go up http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

Do yourself a favor. Get a nice loud slip-on exhaust and a bunch of gaudy, bolt-on cosmetic baubles like the rest of the squids.

If this guy ain't fishin he's whacked.
Dude yer whacked on crack.
What mod's? Ha fuggin Ha Ha.
Try learning to let the clutch out.
If you get past that try rolling on the throttle with out running into something.
Try shifting from first to second
2nd to third and on up to 6th
You will be going around 175 full tilt in 6th. Ever go that fast?
Ever go over 100mph?
If you get out of first you will hit it part way through 2nd on that bike.

Here's the mods you NEED:
Brain bigger than your balls
Disconnect two plug wires from your bike.
Good helmet gloves boots and leathers.
Stellar life insurance policy with good funeral package for your family.
Gold plated medical insurance policy in case you actually survive your guaranteed get off.
Riding lessons.
Ego management classes.

After you get all that check my sig for proper must have mods

You gonna take that crap yellerjacket?

Screw the negatives, it's not like your gonna listen and replace your bike with a tricycle!!! I say f*ckem'. My first bike was a brand new 2001 Hayabusa (sold last Saturday)and second is a 1000. You'll be fine as long as you respect its' power.

Gixx4Life said:

Screw the negatives, it's not like your gonna listen and replace your bike with a tricycle!!! I say f*ckem'. My first bike was a brand new 2001 Hayabusa (sold last Saturday)and second is a 1000. You'll be fine as long as you respect its' power.




The only people that ever say that the Hayabusa, GSXR1k, R1 and the like are ok as first bikes are people that have them as first bikes and don't know any better.

I wonder why that is? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

Seriously. Understand where everyone is coming from. A 1000 for a first bike is rediculous but welcome to America where you have that right to choose a 1000 if you want to.

Be careful on it. If you are going to crash, take it easy so we can all buy parts off your bike on Ebay.

Josh

That's rediculous! You can die on a 600 just as easy as a 1000. Give the guy a break!

This is probably what you should have bought.

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....on the seriuos side, how old are you?
If you dont go careful on this bike I'll guarantee you will end up in trouble.
..and forget about any power increasing mods. This bike has more power than you will ever be able to use on the street.

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ta2drvn said:

Good choice http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif I'm sure you did a lot of research and found out how good the bike is and how great it'll be for a new rider like you. I think a Mods that will be perfect for you will be:

pleanty of blinker fluid (can never have enough around)
Stickers (lot of em cause they do add a few HP each)
Polished rims (gotta have the bling thing)
Colored tires they just came out and you could be the first to have em around where you live.
take your pipe off run it with no muffler, GP racer have started to do it and it'll give you that extra power the 1K needs.
keep a few flex capastors on hand they alway go out.
Run race gas ALLWAYS no cheap stuff always good for 5-10 HP
Turbos and NOS work really good run the boost around 35psi anything under that aint even worth having and hit the NOS right away 1st gear WOT all the way to red line.

These are the best mods don't worry about gear flip flops and shorts are fine full gear is for pussy mother f**kers! Don't waste good money on gear spend it on Horse Power and I don't care what idiot tells you you should take a rider course don't listen they are full of it just get out there and ride it like your Maladin that the best way to learn. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif



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Wecome aboard, it's been nice knowing you http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Ok, I've done what people normally don't think is right. I started on a 600.


Let me tell you that was a mistake. I am a VERY level headed person. The r6 is one hell of a machine. I took it very very slow. Not taking it over 5k for a long time, then 6, then 8, then 9 etc... but still wished i would have a bought an older bike to rip on. (i've learned this now and thinking about this, i realized i should have started with something a lot less then a 600)

Reason is, its just not as fun to ride, you learn more, and have a much much larger margine for error. 600's can be a very finiky bike, their very quick, and handle even quicker, and unlike everybody else says, they have LOTS of power.

This winter i got a sweet deal on a slightly damaged Gix 1000. (1k), What a mistake that was. THis bike is simple awsome, but for pratical reasons, it is simple insane.

Overall, i think i've lost the enjoyment of a riding a bit. The bike has WAY to much power, you have to be very controlled with your right hand. ANd overall, i wish i had the handling of my old R6. I miss the ease of quickly flipping the bike over.(in a turn) I am hardly even using the power of the bike, i've noticed quite recently i am shifting very early, and i still think it has way too much power.

I was starting to get comfy on the 600, and i miss that, i knew how much to give it, and when. I knew when the tire would start to slide, and i knew how well i could corner it (the GIxx 1k feels stable, which gives you a false sense),

ANyways, to cut this short, I believe i am gonna take advantage of the resale value (thanks squids) of this bike in the spring and buy another 600. Simply put this bike is WAY too much for most riders, let alone beginners.

My advise would be to buy an older Sport bike, bag it, drop it, whatever, not a big loss, sell it for what you bought it for, then, maybe consider a 600. Stick with that, its the most fun you'll have with two wheels in my opinion.

ps- SOrry for the bad spelling, i am in a hurry.

C5Vette said:

That's rediculous! You can die on a 600 just as easy as a 1000. Give the guy a break!



That's right...But you can get into trouble a little faster on the 1k.

Ok, so if you can read that, i am not saying this to say your not a level header person, or a a good rider, i'm just concerned with ppl starting off with 1k's or 750, even 600 because everybody seems to label the 600 as the norm. starting bike. I give credit to those that start on older bikes, they can take the skill of learning over the image they want. ANd in the end, they will be a much better, and confident rider.

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More peope were killed on the 85-88 Ninja 600 than any other bike. Those old, heavy, underpowered, underbraked, poor handling, limited traction bikes are more dangerous than a new Gix 1000. If you can respect the 1000 it can be a very forgiving motorcycle. My bet would be it is a better starter bike than say a R1 or 954. Why do you feel you need to odify your bike? The money would be WAY better spent on some rider training. A Motorcycle Saftey Class or Racing school would teach you how to handle your bike ALOT better. Racing school would also give you some exposure to other people with the same bikes and you could learn from them in a safe environment. Stay safe, good luck.

dont bother with any mods yet. you have plenty to learn if you live long enough.BUT one thing bothers me about this site?? WHY DO most gsxr 1000 pilots think that riding the big gixxer is any more difficult than an yamaha R1 or even a 600 gixxer?? it seems to be just MACHO bullshit as the big gixxer is a pussy if ridden with self restraint.take your time dont be a complete dumbass.you could die ona 50cc bike if you dont give it respect. good luck.PISS ON NON BELIEVERS. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif

OK if you ride very carefully and slow you will propbably survive, BUT NOBODY buys one of these bikes to ride slow and safe. It is when you get over that first stage and get on to the THINKING you can handle it, and twist the throttle open for the first time, and arent ready for that huge power hit, then you get scared and just hold on twisting the throttle even further. These bike are just like driving an indycar with blinkers on the street. If you want a 1000 why dont you try to outride a 600 first? I hope you dont end up in a ditch somewhere.

And then you wonder why insurance rates go up and politicians want certain sportbikes restricted or outright banned. At this point in your riding career I can recommend a MAP to the nearest Level One Trauma center. What a dick.Yeah,just dive right in! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

"If you can respect the 1000 it can be a very forgiving motorcycle"

Yeah right! Till the training wheels come off. Not very forgiving then.

howard said:

dont bother with any mods yet. you have plenty to learn if you live long enough.BUT one thing bothers me about this site?? WHY DO most gsxr 1000 pilots think that riding the big gixxer is any more difficult than an yamaha R1 or even a 600 gixxer?? it seems to be just MACHO bullshit as the big gixxer is a pussy if ridden with self restraint.take your time dont be a complete dumbass.you could die ona 50cc bike if you dont give it respect. good luck.PISS ON NON BELIEVERS. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif



I agree, I started on a 1000, first bike, no previous experience. Every site I went to said if you start on a big bike or any sport bike you'd die. All the guys at work said don't bother with the little bikes. The learning curve is alot steeper,but the sheer power keeps me from getting to comfy.

You want to mod your very first bike,a 1000 no less; already??Why?I guess it's just not fast enough as it is huh?Good luck bro.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

Now we all know why 80% of GSXR 1000's are crashed within the first week of ownership http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

SHEEESH every body is so uptight around here http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif come on guys he just wants a list of good MOD's for his bike. You see he is very responsible and isn't stupid or anything like that he's not going to use all the power he just wants a bike that has the power so he can hang out at the local bike night and fit in with everybody there. He's prob gonna be just fine you know it's not like it's a bucking bronco (well most of the time anyways) haven't you read all the posts from guys that start out on 1K's and they are all just fine (I know your so picky wanting to know how long they've been riding and how many miles) He isn't gonna let his ego get in the way when all his buddies are razzing him in a few months about not using all that power and he's not gonna care all the times he gets passed up by harley riders in the twisties and he's not gonna let ego stop him from using the turn outs to let the line of cars behind him go by on those twistie roads. Come on guys give him a few good MOD's that he can use, oh yeah buddy I forgot to mention that you HAVE to remember to ROTATE your tires every 1500 miles or so and don't forget to make sure you ALWAYS have clean gear oil in the rear sproket rotator cup, everybody forgets about that one.

PS don't let anybody get you down good buddy http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif you keep the sticky side up!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif

A local guy around here just started out on a ZX12. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

C5Vette said:

That's rediculous! You can die on a 600 just as easy as a 1000. Give the guy a break!



You obviously arent considering throttle control mistakes while leaning.

ta2drvn said:

You see he is very responsible and isn't stupid or anything like that he's not going to use all the power




Not what I would say about somone who dropped 10K on a bike that A will be so incredibly obsolete when he is able to use HALF the power it has and B: has decent chances of crashing anyway.

God Damn, give the guy a break. It's always funny to hear people talk about the 1K like it some type of unguided missile. You guys sound like the same type who think "guns kill" and don't think about maybe it's the person behind the gun. If the dude has half a brain and can control his wrist he'll be fine. I understand it just kills people out there to think that the difference between a 1K and a Gix 6 is not that much, but someone who is going to kill themselves on a 1K is going to do it on a Gix 6/SV 650 or whatever they are going to buy. It's not the bike that kills, it's the retard twisting the throttle that does. Just show some patience grasshopper and you will be loving it for years to come. The first bike I ever road on the street was a ZX-11 and the first bike I ever bought was an FZR-1000 almost 10 years ago. I kept that bike 8 years, then moved on to the 1000. The Gix is a fast bike, but just like everything else...it's built up to be something it's not. I guess the small dick guys have to brag about something they feel they have that noone else is good enough to control.

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If I have not ... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

I would never suggest someone buy a 1000 as a first bike, and maybe my previous experience is messing with my opinion, but I don't find them all that tough to ride - until you start dipping deep into 8500 RPM+ rides. At which point, you had best be a good rider with solid lines and religiously level-headed sight techniques.

As for the 1000's power taking some of the fun out of riding... wish it had more. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

i also think that the 1000 is not a very good bike to have as a first bike. i ride a 750 and its all the bike i am going to need for now. i would love to have a 1000 or a v twin but money wise that is not possible right now.
but anyways i think it comes down to different definititions of "riding". i have a buddy that just got a 600 and he wanted to go "ride" so i figured cool he has learned enough to at least go on the highway and maybe a little grinding. nope all we did was cruise maybe 45 up and down the local "cruise" strip and sit and shoot the shit. it was fun hanging out on with a bud but i chalked it up to a total loss in terms of "riding".
my point is if you intend to do 45 up and down a straight road and just pose then sure the 1000 is okay for you. but if you intend on taking it at least over 8000 rpm and doing some hard riding in non straight areas then no the bike is not good for a first bike.

I can understand why everyone thinks a 1000 is alot of bike to buy as thier first bike....But if you are level headed, take your time learning it and also respect but fear the bike all at the same time you won't have any problems....


Oh by the way...I started on the 01 gsxr 1000 that I still own, that is till in one piece and damn I am still alive....Yes it is alot of bike but fuck you can die on a moped if you are stupid.....I did ride a friends 96 zx6r and also a friends 00 kawi vulcan for quite some time b4 I bought mine but damn a little respect goes a long ways....

Yellowjacket, just becareful and everything will be ok..Oh and nice bike...
I added an m4 exhaust tre mod and had it dyno tuned w/in a month of buying mine so whatever you want on it go get it......

Just curious... How much do you pay for insurance?

1000 is a sick bike... ive ridden a few of them including the new '03 definitely a HUGE difference burning corners as to how accurate the throttle has to be moderated entering and exiting corners... ive gotten the tail happy myself on one of these definitely be very careful on that thing n make sure you can afford insurance. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

if you have a tamed right hand the 1000 will be okay. the power delivery is so smooth it makes a good learners bike (ie peaky bikes can cause more troubles than a tourqy one). it may be boring though as you wont need to change gears too often.

just keep the revs and throttle limited and you will be ok.

go do a riding course.

I emailed velocity turbo just for you. It seems that if you add the BB turbo upgrade onto their stage 2 kit you can easily have over 400 hp on the 1000. But thats not enough you should add at minimum a 100 shot of NNOOSS. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

The tre and pair valve mods arent neccesary but you can search this site and get plenty of info. Since you already have the pcIII go to powercommander site and download the program and you will find maps there too. They are flamming you cause a thousand is a lot of bike but its civil if your civil with the throttle it boils down to rider input how the bike reacts put your money into good protective gear and some riders courses instead of mods till you get your skill level up.
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You have to be retarded to think that a 1000 is OK for a new rider. Yesterday I rode an '03 1k for the first time (thanks gixerking http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif) Now I have a fair bit of experience on my 600 (48k miles, several trackdays, 5 yrs mx, etc..) and I was ready to hop off after a couple trips through a short twisty section I regularly haul ass on. The whole time I was trying just to keep the damn front end from coming up in the corners and didn't feel like I could go nearly as fast through the section as on my 'little' 600. I am sure I could get used to the power after riding a full day or whatever-but if a very experienced rider has trouble with throttle control then why would it be a good idea for a squid to have one?

I really didn't have as much fun on the bike as I do on my 'little' bike. I guess if your ego needs stroking then the 1k is good, but I think I would rather have a bike I can actually ride, not a bike that rides me.

Now I do know a few guys that can ride a 1k like a man (again gixxerking---> http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif) but you have to be one hell of a rider to actually tame one of these beasts-any idiot can 'ride' one, but I bet no more than a few guys on this site can truly ride a 1k.

-Spooner

Sorry Spooner, sounds like you need a few more track days if you cannot control your throttle.

Can sombody please answer me as to why you would want a 1000 if your not going to use all of the power available?Everybody is saying"just be careful with the throttle,blah,blah,blah." I think everyone's missing a very important point here.It's a complete waste of a bike in the hands of a novice,and sure you could ride it for years without ever going past 8000rpm's.But for what?It's his money and it's a free country but I just think it's a waste of a bike if thats how it's gonna be ridden.To each his own. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

I'm not saying buy the bike if you're going to ride around at 5K rpm's for 5 years...I'm saying that the 1000 is not a lethal bike to start on. Just take it easy with the right wrist until you feel comfortable with what rpm's you have experimented with, then progress upward until you ARE using the power available. Let's face it, there are not many out there experienced or not that are going to use all of the what 1000 can give on the street.

I have never been for buying anything with the intent of using it as a stepping stone for progression. Just get the damn thing and ride like a mature adult. If he wrecks on it then he more than likely would have wrecked on a 600 as well.

To each his own.

I think the often used statement of "you can't use 100% of a 1000 on the street" is a bit of misnomer. It's more about where and when you can use it. You can't use 100% of it in the twisties, but the point is, you don't have to. On a 600 you have to be constantly rowing the gearbox to keep it on the boil to go fast. On the 1000, just stick it in 3rd or 4th, forget about shifting and just get on with it. It's got all the drive you need on the street from 5000 rpm up. You don't need or want to be hitting the redline banging gears cornering it. But you sure as hell CAN use 100% of it straight line, and what a rush it is!

Plus there's other advantages. You can just roll it on in 6th for most "normal" passing situations on the highway, where you're always banging downshifts to pass on a 600. You can trundle around town at 2000-3000 rpm, again really needing only a couple gears.

That said, it's still not for the faint-hearted, ham-fisted or inexperienced rider. It still requires a lot of respect, and and very smooth throttle hand. An inexperienced rider will spend more time trying to control the power and not learning how to actually ride. For the experienced rider, it's a great tool for making short work of your favorite twisties, or even shorter work of your favorite deserted straight away.

I think the above post pretty much sum up my response. Boy o boy a 1000 as a first bike. All I can say is good luck. First mods...frame sliders....and....swing arm sliders. Other than that...buy some really good leathers...gonna need em.

If you have never ridden any form of motorcycle your in for a surprise. Go out with your buds and they start egg'n you. Pull back a hand full of throttle and BAM ...UP...UP....UP...and Over she'll go.....

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You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud. I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......thats not fair......you should treat everyone with respect and equally. Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....
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BigJohnyBlaze said:

You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud. I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......thats not fair......you should treat everyone with respect and equally. Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....
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Yes, it is true there are people who start out on a 1000 and live to talk about it. It's not like it's an instant death-sentence. But you yourself said, "it's not the smartest thing to do", and it's not. And it's not about "respecting the power". How can you respect something you have no clue what it is? An inexperienced rider will be spending all his/her concentration on "respecting the power" and NOT on learning how to ride.

Bikes like the 1000 are VERY unforgiving about mistakes, something ALL beginning riders are going to make, guaranteed. Crack the throttle open just a LITTLE too much in 1st gear, and it's gonna wheelie, break the tire loose, or both. You think an inexperienced rider is equipped to deal with a tirespinning, wheelieing bronco ride like that? A little too much throttle on a bike like say, an SV650 will just make it accelerate a little quicker. That same move could loop a 1000.

The truth is anyone buying a bike like a 1000 is fooling themselves, and actually making their learning curve a LOT steeper. They might survive that curve, but they would be a better, faster rider if they'd started out on something smaller. Even Suzuki's own literature about the bike clearly states "DESIGNED FOR EXPERIENCED RIDERS". But hey, what do they know, they just made the bike, right? And that goes for all the pro racers, riding school instructors etc etc who all say the same thing... start on something small. They did. All these people are wrong, and a newbie just has to "respect the power" and they'll be just fine on a 1000? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

I'm just getting so sick and tired of hearing, "well I bought one, and I survived... so go for it!" Someone that did something stupid, that all the experts advised against and for good reason, but was one of the LUCKY ones and managed to survive, is now in a position to advise others to do the same thing? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

And of course the newb asking about buying said 1000 will ignore 100 posts from experience riders advising against, and look for that one or two posts from the dolts that did it saying, "yeah I got one.. go for it!" to justify getting one. Why even bother go ask for opinions if even if it's 100 to 1 against it, you're just going to listen to the 1 that tells you what you want to hear? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

That's kinda like playing Russian Roulette, surviving it, and then telling someone else, "hey I did it and lived... go for it!" http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

BigJohnyBlaze said:

You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud. I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......thats not fair......you should treat everyone with respect and equally. Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....
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I started riding when I was 12 on a 92 Kawasaki KE100 dual sport. Boy, did I screw up a few times (once got bumped off enough to get both feet off the pegs so I was laying on the bike (like that guy breaking the world speed record back in the day). Never laid it over, but quickly progressed to the point that I could floor it with no hesistation. Then we moved to a KLR650, started riding on dirt until I was old enough to ride on the street. Boy is the KLR650 difficult to keep up at slow speeds! Anyways, after quite a few months of riding, I got to riding on the street, to where I could full throtle it (actually, I full throttled ona regular basis in order to get it up to a decent speed on the highway). I had taken the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course at this point (highly recommended), so I felt comfortable on the street.

Last week I bought a used GSX-R 1000 with 4500mi on it. I am only 18 years old, but with a couple thousand road miles with several thousand dirt miles, I feel fairly confident on the bike. However, I still have yet to take it beyond 9000rpm. I consider myself to be a conservative rider, and no, I cannot use %100 percent of the bikes potential. However, I feel safer using 70% of this bike as opposed to 90% of my dad's RF900.

BTW, as a recommendation to the rider who posted this question... Do not mod this bike unless it is for safety reasons (steel braided brake lines, upgraded suspension, etc). Do however take at least the MSF course, and probably take the ERC (experienced rider course). I have yet to take the ERC, but I hope to do so soon. Also, try reading Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough. This book has taught me so many things, preventing me from learning them from experience.

But mostly, do respect the motorcycle, and it will respect you. The bike will only do what you tell it to do...

Matthew

Heyabuza:You are 100% correct and I could not have said it any better!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif This same question has been asked at least 1000 times on this board,and still no one ever agree's on the answer.You will NEVER learn the fine skills of motorcycling on a bike that your scared of,and will bite you in the ass for being ham-fisted on.People wonder how they just got passed by a guy on a 600 (or a 250 for that matter) when they're riding the King Of The Hill GSXR 1000.Some people will just never learn.

The gsxr1000 was my first sportbike. I had owned a '86 honda magna and several dirtbikes before buying the 1k brand new. I just hit 20k miles and no wrecks or problems. Respect and learn the bike and you will definately enjoy riding it!!!!

BigJohnyBlaze said:

You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud. I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......thats not fair......you should treat everyone with respect and equally. Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....
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Come on now this was a joke post from the start!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif someone on the forum created the name started the post to see a bunch of sh** talk!
this whole post is full of http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif come on get a sense of humor.

MatthewC said:

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I started riding when I was 12 on a 92 Kawasaki KE100 dual sport. Boy, did I screw up a few times (once got bumped off enough to get both feet off the pegs so I was laying on the bike (like that guy breaking the world speed record back in the day). Never laid it over, but quickly progressed to the point that I could floor it with no hesistation. Then we moved to a KLR650, started riding on dirt until I was old enough to ride on the street. Boy is the KLR650 difficult to keep up at slow speeds! Anyways, after quite a few months of riding, I got to riding on the street, to where I could full throtle it (actually, I full throttled ona regular basis in order to get it up to a decent speed on the highway). I had taken the Motorcycle Safety Foundation course at this point (highly recommended), so I felt comfortable on the street.

Last week I bought a used GSX-R 1000 with 4500mi on it. I am only 18 years old, but with a couple thousand road miles with several thousand dirt miles, I feel fairly confident on the bike. However, I still have yet to take it beyond 9000rpm. I consider myself to be a conservative rider, and no, I cannot use %100 percent of the bikes potential. However, I feel safer using 70% of this bike as opposed to 90% of my dad's RF900.

BTW, as a recommendation to the rider who posted this question... Do not mod this bike unless it is for safety reasons (steel braided brake lines, upgraded suspension, etc). Do however take at least the MSF course, and probably take the ERC (experienced rider course). I have yet to take the ERC, but I hope to do so soon. Also, try reading Proficient Motorcycling by David Hough. This book has taught me so many things, preventing me from learning them from experience.

But mostly, do respect the motorcycle, and it will respect you. The bike will only do what you tell it to do...

Matthew



So far, this guy seems to be the most level headed as far as advice goes. Even if this was a bogas post, his advice could benifit more than a couple people here. As for me, my very first bike was an '87 Honda interceptor 700. Three years after getting it, I was winning WERA races and leading the points in my class (my first crash was on the racetrack!). I think that some people were born to ride these things and then there are the others who should stay away from them. Both can benifit from Matthew's wisdom. Cheers Matthew!

try not to kill yourself man... the 1k is a beast... started with a 6 now i got a 1k....
just a word of advice, stay away from the rear brake until you get better with stopping at hight speeds by downshifting and using the front brake... learn how to stop very well before you go out there and ride that 1k like a mad man...
good luck

oldgixxer said:

Can sombody please answer me as to why you would want a 1000 if your not going to use all of the power available?Everybody is saying"just be careful with the throttle,blah,blah,blah." I think everyone's missing a very important point here.It's a complete waste of a bike in the hands of a novice,and sure you could ride it for years without ever going past 8000rpm's.But for what?It's his money and it's a free country but I just think it's a waste of a bike if thats how it's gonna be ridden.To each his own. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif



That is one good issue. I also think another issue is confidence. Riding a bike wel is about mastering the bike with confiodence. Some will never fully master a bike but the better we are on it the faster we will be able to ride safely. When we are always worried about the thing biting us in the ass how are you supposed to have confidence?


Especially as a noob? if you are confident you can ride a 1000 without a few mistakes you have cast iron balls my friend. I hope that is what you land on, cast iron is a lot tougher than bone and flesh.

BigJohnyBlaze said:

You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....




Actually we are a bunch of "assholes" who have learned the hard way what is dumb and why.


BigJohnyBlaze said: "give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud."



You have to earn respect. Popping in on the 1000 forum and stating you are a fucking bike noob who decided to go out and buy the most potent land rocket on earth and then have the gall to ask what he needs to do for more horsepower is not the way to go about earning it. Do some fucking research and find out what is best for you and why. This "biggest, baddest" attitude is a dumb way of approaching a sport know for fatalities. How many times have your relatives given you the "motorcycle speech?" They don't make it up out of thin air.


BigJohnyBlaze said: "I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 .........



So do I. A lot of them are the ones that see me passing them on my 8 year old 600 and get all butt hurt about it and try to be a horsepower hero. It gets old. There are some guys out there that can handle a 1000 and ride it competently, they arent big in number.


BigJohnyBlaze said: and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......




We don't think we are above everyone else. If I did I would not have a 8 year old 600. I rank people by their knowledge and expierence, that usually has something to do with their odometer not post count.



BigJohnyBlaze said: Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....





There is mine. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Dude!!! Just learn to ride it and respect it until you start changing shit! I have been riding for ten years and have over 25,000 miles under my belt and my 1000 still scares the shit out of me sometimes! Good Luck Man be safe!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

sorry yellow jacket i cannot put up with these dumbass do gooders any more?you obviously hold down a job to be able to pay 4 the bike therefore i assume that u have common sense?if you never manage to master the twisties so what . i suggest that u keep the bike in top gear when going around unfamiliar corners this gives you room 4 error with your throttle control.on familiar roads keep in 3rd gear and blow any other present bike into the weeds,and watch how 600 riders frantically go through the gears at much more uncontrolable 12000 rpm + to keep up with you. on a 1000cc gixxer even with a pillion i piss all over irritating 600s from 100mph plus. yes they are quicker through bends but just sit upright and LAUGH as you twist the throttle and pass god himself.dont take this the wrong way there is better riders on 125 machines than 1000cc as but we have the money therefore we have the power?? come back next year IF YOU CAN and piss on all the poor and critical non believers>> http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/sleep.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

Markbsae:great post man http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

you might want to add a few teeth to the rear sprocket since the 1k will only wheelie in 1st. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

howard said:

sorry yellow jacket i cannot put up with these dumbass do gooders any more?you obviously hold down a job to be able to pay 4 the bike therefore i assume that u have common sense?if you never manage to master the twisties so what . i suggest that u keep the bike in top gear when going around unfamiliar corners this gives you room 4 error with your throttle control.on familiar roads keep in 3rd gear and blow any other present bike into the weeds,and watch how 600 riders frantically go through the gears at much more uncontrolable 12000 rpm + to keep up with you. on a 1000cc gixxer even with a pillion i piss all over irritating 600s from 100mph plus. yes they are quicker through bends but just sit upright and LAUGH as you twist the throttle and pass god himself.dont take this the wrong way there is better riders on 125 machines than 1000cc as but we have the money therefore we have the power?? come back next year IF YOU CAN and piss on all the poor and critical non believers>> http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/sleep.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif



Wow Howard, you are pretty much an idiot huh?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif


-Spooner

bmfgsxr said:

you might want to add a few teeth to the rear sprocket since the 1k will only wheelie in 1st. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



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Heyabuza said:


BigJohnyBlaze said:

You guys are seriously a bunch of assholes that think you know everything about everything...when in fact, a bunch of you are a bunch of squid posers.....give the poor guy a break and show him some respect for crying out loud. I know plenty of people that started out on a 1000 and even though I must admit it's not the smartest thing to do it is possible as long as you respect the power. You all think that you are above everyone else because of your post counts......thats not fair......you should treat everyone with respect and equally. Tell him your honest opinion but tell him in a polite way. Thats all.....
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Yes, it is true there are people who start out on a 1000 and live to talk about it. It's not like it's an instant death-sentence. But you yourself said, "it's not the smartest thing to do", and it's not. And it's not about "respecting the power". How can you respect something you have no clue what it is? An inexperienced rider will be spending all his/her concentration on "respecting the power" and NOT on learning how to ride.

Bikes like the 1000 are VERY unforgiving about mistakes, something ALL beginning riders are going to make, guaranteed. Crack the throttle open just a LITTLE too much in 1st gear, and it's gonna wheelie, break the tire loose, or both. You think an inexperienced rider is equipped to deal with a tirespinning, wheelieing bronco ride like that? A little too much throttle on a bike like say, an SV650 will just make it accelerate a little quicker. That same move could loop a 1000.

The truth is anyone buying a bike like a 1000 is fooling themselves, and actually making their learning curve a LOT steeper. They might survive that curve, but they would be a better, faster rider if they'd started out on something smaller. Even Suzuki's own literature about the bike clearly states "DESIGNED FOR EXPERIENCED RIDERS". But hey, what do they know, they just made the bike, right? And that goes for all the pro racers, riding school instructors etc etc who all say the same thing... start on something small. They did. All these people are wrong, and a newbie just has to "respect the power" and they'll be just fine on a 1000? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif

I'm just getting so sick and tired of hearing, "well I bought one, and I survived... so go for it!" Someone that did something stupid, that all the experts advised against and for good reason, but was one of the LUCKY ones and managed to survive, is now in a position to advise others to do the same thing? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

And of course the newb asking about buying said 1000 will ignore 100 posts from experience riders advising against, and look for that one or two posts from the dolts that did it saying, "yeah I got one.. go for it!" to justify getting one. Why even bother go ask for opinions if even if it's 100 to 1 against it, you're just going to listen to the 1 that tells you what you want to hear? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

That's kinda like playing Russian Roulette, surviving it, and then telling someone else, "hey I did it and lived... go for it!" http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif




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vatrpr said:

Sorry Spooner, sounds like you need a few more track days if you cannot control your throttle.


$20 on Spooner.

He's got plenty of throttle control - try reading his post again.

well i guess you guys managed to run him off.

my01gixxer said:

well i guess you guys managed to run him off.




Unless he crashed already http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

oldgixxer said:


my01gixxer said:

well i guess you guys managed to run him off.




Unless he crashed already http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif



Seriously,
I just bought some stuff off e-bay. Bike fit his description. Rider was hurt pretty bad according to seller I spoke to.

Sorry Yellowjacket if it was you. Get well bro!

Hey, do you still have the wheels and front fender?

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Man i hope not...

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Haven't read the whole thread, just the first couple of pages.

There are some people who are smart enough to ride within the limits of their skills and the capabilities of the bike. Those people could learn how to ride on just about ANYTHING.

Then there are people who are going to go beyond pushing the envelope and smear themselves all over the road. Those people are going to screw up on whatever they learn to ride on.

That said, I think the thread starter COULD do just fine learning on a Gixxer 1000 if he has the right mindset.

I just recently upgraded from an F2 to my '03 G1K. I was definitely SCARED of that thing at first. It took me at least a week of riding to get comfortable enough to get on the throttle a bit. But once I got used to the bike, I love it. It's great being able to accelerate VERY quickly even while using hardly any throttle and shiting under 6K rpms.

Heyabuza said:
Crack the throttle open just a LITTLE too much in 1st gear, and it's gonna wheelie, break the tire loose, or both.



I dunno what bike YOU'VE been riding, but the only time my G1K spins its rear tire is if I crank on it hard while leaned over in first gear OR on roads that are a bit slick. The factory Bridgestones offer much better grip that I initially expected. And as far as wheelies go, the bike most certainly does NOT bring the front end automatically every time you roll on the throttle. I have ridden more than a few intentional wheelies on my G1K and I have never had the front end come up without meaning to. Hitting a bump while in first gear and giving the throttle a little jolt does not result in instant wheelie.




Even Suzuki's own literature about the bike clearly states "DESIGNED FOR EXPERIENCED RIDERS". But hey, what do they know, they just made the bike, right?



Well OF COURSE they're going to say that. It's not like they want to be held accountable when some http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif buys one as his first bike.



I'm just getting so sick and tired of hearing, "well I bought one, and I survived... so go for it!" Someone that did something stupid, that all the experts advised against and for good reason, but was one of the LUCKY ones and managed to survive, is now in a position to advise others to do the same thing? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif



If someone learned how to ride on a 1000 and survived, don't you think that person is in something of a position to say "Yeah, I did it, and here's how. If you behave similarly, then you could have a good chance of doing the same."?

Now I would never RECOMMEND that someone get a 1000 or even a 750 as their first bike. But on the other hand, I'm not going to flame someone because they made that choice. If this guy squids himself all over the road, then so be it, he was warned. But if he manages to live with this bike and learns to ride well on it, then I think he deserves some respect. Since we don't know what kind of rider he is or will be, it is not fair to automatically assume that he is a squid.

You know what fuck all you haters!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif My first bike was a 03 600 which I had for errrr 2 weeks then It was stolen, 3 weeks later I bought a 03 1000. I look at it this way there's a shit load of power in the 600 as well; enough power that the bike's gonna out perform your ass any day of the week. The 1000 yeah will kick your ass all over the place if you let it. Its all in your right hand and timing. It's fuckin common sense!!! I treat my bike with respect and it treats me good too. I only open it up when the conditions are right. Straight aways, no cars, not too windy, and roads are dry. But then there's always something that can jump out in front of you at those speeds. Yes thats not anything you can control and thats the risk I'm willing to take. I look at it this way, anything over a 100mph and I'm good as dead any way whether it's on a 1000 or a 600. Although I do miss my 600 cause I didn't get the chance to used to a 600 and I totally by-passed the 750 stage, I'm kinda glad I did. Save me the trouble from having to sell my bikes to upgrade in the future. Look at the positives people quite being so damn negative!!!!!

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I dunno what bike YOU'VE been riding, but the only time my G1K spins its rear tire is if I crank on it hard while leaned over in first gear OR on roads that are a bit slick. The factory Bridgestones offer much better grip that I initially expected. And as far as wheelies go, the bike most certainly does NOT bring the front end automatically every time you roll on the throttle. I have ridden more than a few intentional wheelies on my G1K and I have never had the front end come up without meaning to. Hitting a bump while in first gear and giving the throttle a little jolt does not result in instant wheelie.
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Your bike must be broke, my 03 does wheelies on its on all the time. When drag racing the front end still hovers in 3rd!

KyleB said:
Your bike must be broke, my 03 does wheelies on its on all the time. When drag racing the front end still hovers in 3rd!



Maybe I just know how to ride it. I dynoed the bike at 141.8rwhp with 10 miles on the clock, so it's obviously making good powar.

And I ran it at the local 1/8th mile drag strip last night. There was only time to make four runs since the strip was pretty packed, but I worked down from a 7.4xx (terrible) to a 7.1xx (passable). The only time I had wheelie issues was on my third run. At about 9000rpm, the front end just started coming up and I had to let off to bring it back down. I think it happened because I was spinning the back tire and when it hooked, that's what brought the nose up. I had no problems keeping the front end down in second.

Theoretically, I should be in the high 6s with this bike, which will probably happen with some more practice.

I've been traveling for work this is what i have to say to all of the nay sayers i havn't crashed yet, i've had it about two months and 1800 miles. been into tripple digits a few times. i always ride with a good quality joe rocket coat and gloves, and a helment, even though my state dosn't require it. i even ride with my gear on in the afternoon during the summer.
i am a twenty one year old conservative rider, when i get passed by 600's and harleys i just ahh good i hope they get a cops attention so they'll leave me alone. i do have good wrist control. but with all that said, i am very respectful of this bike. i have a good idea what it can do, and i have a very good idea what i can do, the two are not at the same level. i have no problem with pulling over and chillin out if i feel i am riding over my head, but i am not affraid to push my evelope to make me a better rider. i typicaly ride by my self so i never feel the need to impress the other guys in my area who ride sportbikes.

i will say it has been very interesting reading what everybody has to say.

Well,with that attitude you should be O.K. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

oldgixxer said:

Well,with that attitude you should be O.K. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif



Especially commuting for work.


I NEVER ride my bike to work Useless miles on it.

markbsae said:
Especially commuting for work.
I NEVER ride my bike to work Useless miles on it.



How are ANY miles spent on your bike useless miles?

I ride my bike for work, and I do onsite network support for businesses. I get paid for travel time, and the way I look at it, I'm getting paid to do something I love.

Your bike is meant to be enjoyed. How is it being enjoyed when it's hiding in your garage?

thefleshrocket said:


markbsae said:
Especially commuting for work.
I NEVER ride my bike to work Useless miles on it.



How are ANY miles spent on your bike useless miles?

I ride my bike for work, and I do onsite network support for businesses. I get paid for travel time, and the way I look at it, I'm getting paid to do something I love.

Your bike is meant to be enjoyed. How is it being enjoyed when it's hiding in your garage?




I bought a bike for fun. If your idea of fun is riding around town then I truly feel sorry for you. I get 10,000+ miles a year. Those miles arent sitting at traffic lights or riding on the freeway. It is riding where you can use a bike for the purpose of what it was built for, to go fast. It is either a ride out in unpopulated areas or track days.

If you ride fast in town I feel even more sorry for you.

I hate to say I'll NEVER do track days, but right now I don't plan on it. Because I hear too many people say that they just don't want to ride on the street any more after. I love riding. Period. And it don't matter if it's just a quick 10 minute jaunt to work or a 350 mile excursion to someplace I'd never been before... IE: (what I did this last weekend)
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There's no such thing as useless miles... And the people I feel sorry for are the ones that can't get a thrill out of riding unless they are going balls-to-the-walls on a track somewhere.

Kanati

markbsae said:
I bought a bike for fun. If your idea of fun is riding around town then I truly feel sorry for you. I get 10,000+ miles a year.



My idea of fun is riding. Period.

Sure, I'd prefer to be out hitting the twisties every minute I'm riding, but even if I'm stuck in traffic, I'd still rather be on my bike than in a cage.

thefleshrocket said:


markbsae said:
I bought a bike for fun. If your idea of fun is riding around town then I truly feel sorry for you. I get 10,000+ miles a year.



My idea of fun is riding. Period.

Sure, I'd prefer to be out hitting the twisties every minute I'm riding, but even if I'm stuck in traffic, I'd still rather be on my bike than in a cage.




I agree with you Flesh. I ride mine to work every day. I am lucky to have a twisty road to use, but even if I didn't I'd still ride. One of my things is to see how long I can sit at a stop sign or light without putting my feet down. Always honing the balance thing. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

Hey Yellowjacket, Keep your head up http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif & http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif everone who had something bad to say to u and your bike!

GooD Luck on your bike & to u. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Please, let this thread die. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

thefleshrocket said:

How are ANY miles spent on your bike useless miles?

I ride my bike for work, and I do onsite network support for businesses. I get paid for travel time, and the way I look at it, I'm getting paid to do something I love.

Your bike is meant to be enjoyed. How is it being enjoyed when it's hiding in your garage?



Thank funny. Exactly the same thing I use my bike for, right down to the job description. Can't beat getting paid $15/hr to ride to job sites. Especially those little "15 minutes ride each way, 5 minutes on-site" kind of jobs...