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Kamikaze-Fox
11-12-2007, 09:36 PM
sent you guys a picture of the turbo that came factory on my car and you guys could tell me how well it would run on an srad 600 motor....i know its all about the tuning but this thing is able to withstand 30 lbs on a 1.8l engine, why not 15-20 on a 600?

Kamikaze-Fox
11-12-2007, 09:37 PM
i mean jets are easier to mess with than tuning right?

night ryder
11-12-2007, 10:14 PM
a picture will not tell me anything. you need to post the specs of the turbo.

Kamikaze-Fox
11-13-2007, 12:02 PM
ill have the specs of the turbo today

Kamikaze-Fox
11-13-2007, 01:39 PM
turbo specs r here....
hows this look...will it work?
http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l228/kamikazefox/k03sspecs.jpg

Kamikaze-Fox
11-13-2007, 03:26 PM
anything guys? come on i know u guys know more about turbo-ing a bike than me...im only looking to get like a 30 horse increase... i know it would be cheaper putting a bigger engine in...but i have every part lying around here...including the intercooler that came on the car...but im gonna try and run without it. the turbo runs 10lbs on the car stock, im hoping to get 5-10 out of it on the bike.

boostenlebaron
11-13-2007, 06:22 PM
stock bikes can barely handle more than 6 pounds reliablly. what kind of turbo is that, i vaguely recognize the numbers and i keep thinking dodge. ones off talons are probably the best stock car turbos for this type of project. as far as seeing 30 hp increase its possible but youll need some extras like a power commander and bigger pump to start. lower compression would be a good idea.

SmurfOnAGixxer
11-13-2007, 09:43 PM
stock bikes can barely handle more than 6 pounds reliablly. what kind of turbo is that, i vaguely recognize the numbers and i keep thinking dodge. ones off talons are probably the best stock car turbos for this type of project. as far as seeing 30 hp increase its possible but youll need some extras like a power commander and bigger pump to start. lower compression would be a good idea.
Statement is 100% false. Stock bikes can easily handle more than 6psi realiably on PUMP gas. My daily drive turbo 1000 is a completely BONE STOCK motor, and I run 12-13 psi out of it on 94 daily, without retarded timing, just an upgraded fuel system, and colder plugs. I dont even have a power commander on it. I have seen 18psi on multiple occasions with race gas (VP MS109)

I have a quad with a turbo 750 motor in that we push 12psi out of with 94... Its 3 years old.

I have been doing these motors for a while, and know what they can take, most failures come from improper tuning, then he who blows the motor up, just simply says "well the motor cannot take that much boost stock" where if it were tuned right in the first place, it would of taken it no problem.

Kamikaze - do you happen to have the compressor and turbine a/r #s? that is gonna be your biggest downfall, if the turbine a/r is too high your just wasting time, you need a turbo for a smaller application with a lower a/r, like around .48-.60 (you will find this number casted in the turbine housing most of the time)

Kamikaze-Fox
11-13-2007, 10:35 PM
Statement is 100% false. Stock bikes can easily handle more than 6psi realiably on PUMP gas. My daily drive turbo 1000 is a completely BONE STOCK motor, and I run 12-13 psi out of it on 94 daily, without retarded timing, just an upgraded fuel system, and colder plugs. I dont even have a power commander on it. I have seen 18psi on multiple occasions with race gas (VP MS109)

I have a quad with a turbo 750 motor in that we push 12psi out of with 94... Its 3 years old.

I have been doing these motors for a while, and know what they can take, most failures come from improper tuning, then he who blows the motor up, just simply says "well the motor cannot take that much boost stock" where if it were tuned right in the first place, it would of taken it no problem.

Kamikaze - do you happen to have the compressor and turbine a/r #s? that is gonna be your biggest downfall, if the turbine a/r is too high your just wasting time, you need a turbo for a smaller application with a lower a/r, like around .48-.60 (you will find this number casted in the turbine housing most of the time)
dude its like .44 or .46 trim exhaust or something, and i think its almost even on the intake side... regarldless...one of the smallest exhaust sides ive ever seen on a turbo. anyway. my buddy makes 28 lbs on his jetta 1.8t on it...not that that info makes any kind of statements. honeslty by looking at it....i dont think the bike will have any problems running it with barely any tuning...but with the way the top end on the bike is...i dont know if the turbo would handles it. maybe anywhere from like 5-9 grand. but after it looks like it might be too hard on the little guy

Kamikaze-Fox
11-13-2007, 10:36 PM
ill post a pic of it next to my hand tomorrow, along with whats stamped on the outside

night ryder
11-14-2007, 05:08 AM
dude its like .44 or .46 trim exhaust or something, and i think its almost even on the intake side... regarldless...one of the smallest exhaust sides ive ever seen on a turbo. anyway. my buddy makes 28 lbs on his jetta 1.8t on it...not that that info makes any kind of statements. honeslty by looking at it....i dont think the bike will have any problems running it with barely any tuning...but with the way the top end on the bike is...i dont know if the turbo would handles it. maybe anywhere from like 5-9 grand. but after it looks like it might be too hard on the little guy

you will start to spool at 4-5k with that small of turbine housing.

SmurfOnAGixxer
11-14-2007, 06:33 AM
The trim and a/r are two different things. Trim is a term to express the relationship between the inducer* and exducer* of both turbine and compressor wheels. More accurately, it is an area ratio.

A/R (Area/Radius) describes a geometric characteristic of all compressor and turbine housings. Technically, it is defined as:
the inlet (or, for compressor housings, the discharge) cross-sectional area divided by the radius from the turbo centerline to the centroid of that area

Kamikaze-Fox
11-14-2007, 12:16 PM
i found no a/r spec stamped or any trim on either the exhaust or intake side...