so whats for 2004???

is the K3 gonna stay king of the hill or is it gonna be blown into the weeds??

what have we got as options then??
*the new K4 but with no changes bar, probably a paint job. after reading what you guys have to say about it, its gotta lot of potential to be staying top or the ranks

*the new R1 i don't know much about it for 2004 but i heard its gettin ram air'd

*the new honda which is gonna be a nice bit of kit. i've seen no pics but lookin at the new 600RR its got to be mean, it was only the other day i heard they've been developing the big'un since the 98 R1 hit the high street!!!

*that leaves the ZX10 and judging by there new little half litre class racer it might go well although i do think its no chance!!

if any of you have any opinions please post i wanna hear what YOU have to say and i can't wait to hear any of the rumours that you might have........chow

same bike, different color. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

I dont thinlk Kaw will have a chance when power:weight ratio is concerned. Honda I have seen and wasnt impressed but no HP figures were given. I think the best chance to de-throwne the 1K will probably be the R1. BUT I cant believe Suzuk is ready for that yet. Its just my opinion.

Someone around here needs to put the pipe down.

I can assure you that Suzuki (and Honda for that part: inline 4 my ass) are not sitting back doing nothing for 2004.

You also need to understand that Suzuki feels that the 2003 1k is nothing more than an <font color="yellow"> **UPGRADE** </font> . You just might be shocked very soon...
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

you guys ever notice jeffw when he posts about what suzukis comin out is prob the biggest tease ive ever seen....your worse then a chick who doesnt finish the job man...tell us the deal for 04....its almost septemember isnt that when they release stuff anyway??ahhh i wanna know whats im gonna be buyin next summer

GixxerXI said:

you guys ever notice jeffw when he posts about what suzukis comin out is prob the biggest tease ive ever seen....your worse then a chick who doesnt finish the job man...tell us the deal for 04....its almost septemember isnt that when they release stuff anyway??ahhh i wanna know whats im gonna be buyin next summer




Since you weren't around last year....

Jeff took some flak (from Suzuki) over releasing some 'teaser' pics last year, so I can't blame him for not showing his hand. He knows what he knows, and the rest of us will have to have patience for a couple more WEEKS ...

ya didnt know about that last year.....i just envy his knowledge thats all

Jeff,

I like ya alot, and you are like a bike Genius and all. but.........

I think your full of shit this time and I'm calling your bluff. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif

Suzuki aint touching the 1000!!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif

Hell,

I hope they do change it. Then my 03 will be EXCLUSIVE!!!!

NUCLEUS said:

I think your full of shit this time and I'm calling your bluff. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Suzuki aint touching the 1000!!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif





One word titanium.

I'll give you another word (or number) on Friday.

One word titanium.

I'll give you another word (or number) on Friday.



Titanium??? You got me. So they are going to make the bike lighter?! Strange. The bike already meets minimum AMA and WSB weight requirements.

I'll be looking for your post on Friday! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I still say http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif

titanium....rotors?

Titanium, as in motor parts (collets -?, rods, etc.). Lighter,stronger parts, makes for a faster rev'ing motor...probably with a higher red line (of course HP)... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

They gotta keep that retail $ in check...

Putting my K1 back to stock, selling it fast and waiting for my GSVR to come in http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Ti frame?

Even the Dealer and Salesman I am close too are expecting something major from SUZ this year.

They haven't been this secretive since the GSXR 1k in 01 when it first came out.

With a whole new line up expected, Suzuki is keeping the lid on tight (even from the dealers, well maybe not Jeffw LOL).

Don't count out Kawi as they are able to pull some Technology from Suz, and remember in 98 and 99 when the zx 9r still beat the R1 and CBR 9's in pure power.

jeffw said:


NUCLEUS said:

I think your full of shit this time and I'm calling your bluff. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Suzuki aint touching the 1000!!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif





One word titanium.

I'll give you another word (or number) on Friday.



Number has gotta be 5 (cylinders!) ... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

jeffw said:


NUCLEUS said:

I think your full of shit this time and I'm calling your bluff. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Suzuki aint touching the 1000!!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif





One word titanium.

I'll give you another word (or number) on Friday.




Ok, it's Friday...!?!?!

Come on, tell us http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif

P.S. No wonder my dealer wants to give me a good deal on the GSXR1000 '03 right now. He probably knows that once the '04 come out, the '03 will be hard to sell or if they sell, they're not going to be making much profit http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

friday friday friday

jeffw said:

Someone around here needs to put the pipe down.

I can assure you that Suzuki (and Honda for that part: inline 4 my ass) are not sitting back doing nothing for 2004.

You also need to understand that Suzuki feels that the 2003 1k is nothing more than an <font color="yellow"> **UPGRADE** </font> . You just might be shocked very soon...
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif





anyone have a delorian with a flux capasitor so that I can head into the future and check out the new gsxr line so that I can report back to you all?!?!?!

Come on Jeffw, want to hear the number, need to hear the number, have to hear the number. I guess I really wont hear it at all but I'd really like to READ it just the same. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

The number is "2003" It is just like the 2003 model! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

JeffW .....what do you know brother??????
inquirying minds wanna know http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

if its gsvr im putting money down now to reserve a blue/white one http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I said this on another post but here it is:

"I believe Jeff W. is correct, and we will be seeing a new GSVR-1000 next year. Here is why: We have been working on a joint venture with Suzuki (as we have on a number of occasions in the past). This venture is to produce a new line of SUV's starting with Equinox and later the Suzuki variant. A person I work closely with went to Japan to see a prototype build and next to the area they were in was a bike that looked production ready. When he came back from his trip he told me about this and said the bike was a GSVR1000 NOT a GSXR1000. He is not very familiar with bikes and there is no reason why he would mislead me. At first I was thinking this bike wouldn't be available for a couple of years since that is the new model intro cycle, but if Jeff W is suggesting something new next year I believe the GSVR 1000 is it. "

Jeffw....Jeffw.....wherefore art thou JeffW.....


This is so much like last year when jeffw did the pics. I was checking gixxer.com every 5 minutes!!! I never got any shit done at work!!!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

engineer said:

I said this on another post but here it is:

"I believe Jeff W. is correct, and we will be seeing a new GSVR-1000 next year. Here is why: We have been working on a joint venture with Suzuki (as we have on a number of occasions in the past). This venture is to produce a new line of SUV's starting with Equinox and later the Suzuki variant. A person I work closely with went to Japan to see a prototype build and next to the area they were in was a bike that looked production ready. When he came back from his trip he told me about this and said the bike was a GSVR1000 NOT a GSXR1000. He is not very familiar with bikes and there is no reason why he would mislead me. At first I was thinking this bike wouldn't be available for a couple of years since that is the new model intro cycle, but if Jeff W is suggesting something new next year I believe the GSVR 1000 is it. "




So if we are talking about a V4 or V5, what are going to be the benefits of this configuration over the regular inline 4?

Will this remedy the troublesome counterbalance that makes the 430lbs GSXR1000 feel like a full grown moose?

I’m sure the width of the bike will be more compact, right?

What about power and other geometry changes with this V Configuration?

maybe a titanium trellis frame like the ducati motogp bike?

we could call it the 'flexi-flyer'.

no, i don't think suzuki would do that.

seriously, suzuki makes great street bikes. but they better start improving their motogp bike fast, because its performance is a bit embarrassing, and that might affect streetbike sales as the link between motogp and what you ride on the street gets closer.

whether or not honda will build a streetbike that reflects much of the potential in their motogp bike is another matter. but they could. and they might just do it.

jeff buddy your leavin us hangin!

Right now Jeff has a big smile on his face and is laughing. I wonder if it will get as ugly as it did last year....

Oh well, dealer conference is less then a month away. I can wait.

What really sucks is if the GSVR rumor is true all you guys who ran out and bought a 03 1000 now have a obsulete bike and it's only one year old.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

so what would be different about this gsvr...i know you guys can only speculate, and we dont even know if thats what it will be but what do you guys think....

antonio said:

What really sucks is if the GSVR rumor is true all you guys who ran out and bought a 03 1000 now have a obsulete bike and it's only one year old.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif




It will still be faster than your bike! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

Flame on my friend. Burn baby burn! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif

Jump1979man said:


antonio said:

What really sucks is if the GSVR rumor is true all you guys who ran out and bought a 03 1000 now have a obsulete bike and it's only one year old.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif




It will still be faster than your bike! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

Flame on my friend. Burn baby burn! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif



I knew you would say that. Keep telling yourself that, it's all you got. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif

I know it's cliche' to say but this is such an exciting time for sportbike riders....the air-cooled traditional cruiser guys simply get the same shit year after year with a huge increase or decrease in rake..........LOL..... chopper heads.......too bad for them..... damn we're lucky..so let's just be happy....did you see the zx10? Yikes!.....

JeffW? It's friday? You owe us after all the JSD's you sold.........LOL...... c'mon buddy you know you want to tell us more............pretty please?

Cruisers have the same thing every year? I beg to differ.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/news/detail?sectionID=50677&amp;documentID=178705

I was under the impression that the GSVR1000 (or 990) would not be released until '05. It seems awfully early to replace the "updated" '03 GSXR1000. Either way the '03 is an exceptional piece of machinery and will still be a very impressive machine for years to come. And besides, most squids don't know how to properly ride a bike to the limit anyway. No offense meant but the rider is the part of the equation that most bike/rider combos are lacking in. Instead of buying a new bike to go faster buy a set of DOT race tires and a track day or two.
Either way, I sold my '01 GSXR1000 and didn't accept my '03 specifically because I wanted a NON I-4 but I only ride Suzukis on the pavement so I didn't have a real viable option.
This new GSVR1000 IS the bike for me. I sure hope it is true.
In the mean time I'll keep myself busy on my '04 CRF450!

I never said that a v-4 would replace the gsxr-1000.

Will I will say 16.5

16.5 sparkplugs?

jeffw said:

I never said that a v-4 would replace the gsxr-1000.

Will I will say 16.5



If that means wheel size...You have to be kidding me!!

Tire manufacturers will have to play catch-up, and prices for the tires will be through the roof until other bikes get with the program...

Hope you are talking about something else...

You are so getting a kick out of this...so would I.

Where'd this GSV-R crap come from...don't see them producing it until they get some decent results...who'd buy the damn thing like it is now.

16.5 inch mag wheels? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

blackzuk said:

16.5 inch mag wheels? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif



You won't ever see Mag wheels from the one of the big Japanese firms. Too many legal libalities... Heck even Ducatis come with Alum version of the Marchesini wheels. The only bike I know of that comes with Mag wheels is the MV Agusta F4 SPR.

Titanium reciprocating engine parts will allow for a 16.5 revlimit. I'm guessing with the same torque levels that will equal 170 at the wheel.

cosworth said:

Titanium reciprocating engine parts will allow for a 16.5 revlimit. I'm guessing with the same torque levels that will equal 170 at the wheel.



Ohhh, I like how you think... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

16.5 down the straight at Spokane and the 750/600 guys will be crying...

cosworth, you may be onto something . http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

antonio said:


cosworth said:

Titanium reciprocating engine parts will allow for a 16.5 revlimit. I'm guessing with the same torque levels that will equal 170 at the wheel.



Ohhh, I like how you think... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif



Yes..that sounds more logical, but GOOD GOD a big-bore bike turning 16.5K http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif Hard to believe...

With Titanium engine parts how well would it be for longevity. I know people that own Ducati 996R's and they have to get the titanium rods checked like once a year, just curiousabout that.

blackzuk said:

With Titanium engine parts how well would it be for longevity. I know people that own Ducati 996R's and they have to get the titanium rods checked like once a year, just curiousabout that.



I think that's typical of the valve system (Desmo') that Ducati's have and not the material of construction.

F1 engines are 3.0 litres and they turn 19,000 (ish for BMW) at peak hold. but man.. F1 engine!

I'm aware of the valve system but I do know that the 996R has titanium rods in them and my friend usually has his checked for stress cracks. We have seen some that where bad, not a lot but a few. Thats why I asked how well would they work in a motor that spun to 16.5 in the long run. Don't get me wrong I'm all for the performance gain I just had a longevity concern thats all, because I keep bikes for a long time as long as I really like the bike. I have a 01 and have no plans of getting another bike any time soon unless this one gets stolen or crashed. So reliability is a major concern for me.

Did anyone think 16.5 could mean $16,500? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

1/4 mile time. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

first thing that comes to mind is rim size, but it could be hp increase, weight reduced, any number of things....

You guys are gonna be surprized when ya find out........................ http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

My guess is that Cosworth is on to something. They'll still sell the GSXR1000 in it's current form but they'll also affer an RR version similar to the R7 that Ymaha built. They'll be avaliable in very limited numbers.

cosworth said:

F1 engines are 3.0 litres and they turn 19,000 (ish for BMW) at peak hold. but man.. F1 engine!



Yes but thats with neumatic valve actuation, no cams!

pneumatic valves with hydraulic halfvalve actuation initiaters. You should see some of the shit that an F1 engine has. There are restricted metals in the BMW engine. Big big $$$.

I think you guys are missing the point here. Jeffw never said anything about it being a 1000. What he is probably referring to is an tricked out last year run of the GSXR750. If you've followed his post, he has often referenced a ultra trick 750 for its final run of production. So it looks like it probably would have titanium exhaust, 16.5 in rims (very GP and WSB http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif) and who knows what other goodies.

No GSVR until maybe 2005.

I still think the 1000 will remain basically the same.

There's a problem with using things like titanium rods, titanium is one, very hard to machine because it's malleable, meaning that it will tend to bend rather than be cut. Either way, titanium also tends to shear and really can’t be used exclusively for things like rods because of the affect it will have on bearings. That’s why it’s usually used in conjunction with steel sleeves or produced as an alloy of steel and titanium. I’m not sure of the relevance of this post, just thought I’d share what I’ve learned from a friend who owns/runs a machine shop that makes gun parts for the military.

titanium valves ala r7?
16.5k rpm?
I think he is talking about the 750.

this would make a good betting pool among friends!

Suzuki will release no new bikes for 2004..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif

Is that a hint at a new GSVR or a new revamped existing bike. Hmmm. I'll just wait for the pics.:D

i won't be surprised if it is titanium valves, 16.5k rpm for the gixxer 600. that is right in the ballpark.

that is out of the ballpark if it happens to the 1000.

Canuck1K said:

i won't be surprised if it is titanium valves, 16.5k rpm for the gixxer 600. that is right in the ballpark.

that is out of the ballpark if it happens to the 1000.



Well AMA is talking about the Formula Extreme class being 600cc next year. Maybe it is a 600. I just want to know so I can buy something. I've been bike-less for 6 months now http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif
and it's driving me nuts with all this speculation http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bash.gif

Jeff just pm me something, I swear not to tell and will delete on the spot and will not post anything on any topic until after the september bike show.

I know, I know nice try huh?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

titanium bits = 16.5 lbs lighter. I also heard that there will be a small change in the brakes and appearance. Maybe the rumored "1000 head" will come off of the shelf and replace the 750 head on the bike now which will equal 16.5 hp. Suzuki will also have to step up with it's fuel injection in order to compete with the new AMA rules (2 injectors--one at the base and a shower at the top ala Yosh superbike)

Baldy

Baldy said:

titanium bits = 16.5 lbs lighter. I also heard that there will be a small change in the brakes and appearance. Maybe the rumored "1000 head" will come off of the shelf and replace the 750 head on the bike now which will equal 16.5 hp. Suzuki will also have to step up with it's fuel injection in order to compete with the new AMA rules (2 injectors--one at the base and a shower at the top ala Yosh superbike)

Baldy






This sounds like a well thought out post.

do we have twins coming soon to replace the tiller????

ta2drvn said:

do we have twins coming soon to replace the tiller????



I don't think they are going to replace the tiller, once it's dead it's dead, which won't be long.
The only twin left in competition after this year will be the Duc, and maybe the Aprilia. With the 1000cc across the board rule change, I'm sure Suzuki won't waist the money on another twin. Possibly a V but not a twin. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

I read this thead with great intrest ,one thing though ,moto gp rules say that bikes must be prototypes ,ie not resembling production bikes therefore if Suzuki call the new bike the gsvr are they at risk of breaking those rules.After all the British team Harris wrcm was disqualified from races because their bike was to close to a R1. Just a thought.

watto said:

I read this thead with great intrest ,one thing though ,moto gp rules say that bikes must be prototypes ,ie not resembling production bikes therefore if Suzuki call the new bike the gsvr are they at risk of breaking those rules.After all the British team Harris wrcm was disqualified from races because their bike was to close to a R1. Just a thought.



Well you better tell Honda that, because the 998rr looks almost identical to the RC211V and so does the 600rr. I don't think it's as much the resemblance as GP must not use off the shelf components. Everything must be made in house and of their own design.

Come on guys........ your over thinking it.

A new redesigned 600 and 750 that uses some tricks from the 03' 1k (black frame, less weight, more HP). The 04' 1k will be unchanged with a couple new colors. And a new line of bikes to replace the TLR. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif

I live in Japan and see all the good shite. The six is redone to look like the 03 1000, with no plans for the 750. Sorry all you 750 lovers. You can already buy a race prepped version of any three http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif, much like the Honda. They come all prepped with race glass for the same price. No lights.

Validator said:

Come on guys........ your over thinking it.

A new redesigned 600 and 750 that uses some tricks from the 03' 1k (black frame, less weight, more HP). The 04' 1k will be unchanged with a couple new colors. And a new line of bikes to replace the TLR. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif



And exactly what is your bank acct number..........since you are wrong?

jeffw said:


Validator said:

Come on guys........ your over thinking it.

A new redesigned 600 and 750 that uses some tricks from the 03' 1k (black frame, less weight, more HP). The 04' 1k will be unchanged with a couple new colors. And a new line of bikes to replace the TLR. TAKE THAT TO THE BANK! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif



And exactly what is your bank acct number..........since you are wrong?



Bwahahahhahahahahaaahhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif

jeffw said:


Validator said:





And exactly what is your bank acct number..........since you are wrong?



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif

I recently had the chance to talk with a Suzuki factory rider. He stated that there would definitley be a new 600 and stated that a new 750 is in the works that has the hp numbers of the current 1000 with less torque. He said that they plan on running the new 750 in the 1000 super stock class for 04. I did not ask about a new 1000 and he did not offer any info on it. He was rather tight lipped. He may have been full of sh-t, I don't know. I guess time will tell.

Validator said:


jeffw said:


Validator said:





And exactly what is your bank acct number..........since you are wrong?



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif



You obviously don't know about Jeffw.... he is right.

i wonder how long this tease of a post will go on....i think the only safe thing to say is there will be a new 600, and something will be done with the other bikes, vague i know, but so is everything else in this post, or just speculation...except for jeffw's titanium 16.5

It could be the capasity of the fuel tank of the new 600, 16.5 litres , smaller tank smaller ,lighter bike???

Here's my $0.02....

JeffW said that Suzuki will release no new bikes for 2004. He didn't say that Suzuki would not release a 2005 model IN 2004. Hmmm, 2005 GSVR released early next summer is my guess.

JeffW.... if I'm wrong.... just shoot me now and take me out of my pain please!!! :idea

hmmmmmmmm,,, u ride todasy i did

I was joking on the new bike thing for next year:
<ul type="square"> Yes an all new 600 with very trick stuff (hp increase, weight loss, 1k styling &amp; frame, new brakes &amp; braking components, increased rpm, etc)
Trick 750 (same bike but with a bunch of new parts)
New gsxr-1000. If you look at the 1000SS rules for next year, you just might have some idea of what the bike will look like. You really think that Aaron was on a 03 bike at the last Daytona tire test (where he was faster than the Honda superbikes)?
Also some sort of 500cc machine???
[/list]

Each of the above bike is said to have new titanium parts.... if I were a gussing man I would say valves. Lots of adjustable stuff. Should be a great new model year.

Now these would just be my guesses http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif And no I will not say a word about a gsxv type bike.

jeffw said:

I was joking on the new bike thing for next year:
<ul type="square"> Yes an all new 600 with very trick stuff (hp increase, weight loss, 1k styling &amp; frame, new brakes &amp; braking components, increased rpm, etc)
Trick 750 (same bike but with a bunch of new parts)
New gsxr-1000. If you look at the 1000SS rules for next year, you just might have some idea of what the bike will look like. You really think that Aaron was on a 03 bike at the last Daytona tire test (where he was faster than the Honda superbikes)?
Also some sort of 500cc machine???
[/list]

Each of the above bike is said to have new titanium parts.... if I were a gussing man I would say valves. Lots of adjustable stuff. Should be a great new model year.

Now these would just be my guesses http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif And no I will not say a word about a gsxv type bike.



http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif Ya didn't sad much different from what I said about the 04' bikes. Only thing we disagree on is an updated K3. I still say new colors and thats it for the k3.

jeffw said:

Now these would just be my guesses http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif And no I will not say a word about a gsxv type bike.



Anyone notice he said GSXV and not GSVR? Hmmmm... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

Sept 9th!!!!!!!!!

2005 will be a good year

Validator said:


http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif Ya didn't sad much different from what I said about the 04' bikes. Only thing we disagree on is an updated K3. I still say new colors and thats it for the k3.



You are right I did not say much more, and won't. But I'll be looking to hear from you after Suzuki release the new bikes on Sept 12th in Vegas.

jeffw said:

You are right I did not say much more, and won't. But I'll be looking to hear from you after Suzuki release the new bikes on Sept 12th in Vegas.





I have a hard-on just thinking about it. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif

I cant wait? thanks for the info cause now im drooling jeffw. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif

jeffw I just wanna know "Will there be a Red and something 1k next year"....

When the gsvr or gsxv comes out in 2005 will it replace the gsxr1000 or will it be a ultra high priced bike in limited numbers that nobody has (and poosibly can't be reistered)???

Has to be 16.5" wheels as this is the size where most of the development is done for teams for moto gp and other big bore classes where wheel sizes are free.

Can't be 16500 rpm as that would need considerable engine redesign since the forces increase by the square of the engine rpm or speed.

Steve 1234 said:

When the gsvr or gsxv comes out in 2005 will it replace the gsxr1000 or will it be a ultra high priced bike in limited numbers that nobody has (and poosibly can't be reistered)???



get it / "wreck it" / rebuild it / inspect and title it !!!!

and i do not think it's a replacement / definatly evolving tech / bottom line is rotational mass, reciriprocating mass, order of fire and the included angle of the V, 5 cyl will allow smaller individual components for a possible higher rpm(hp city) range...

if you look at an 80's z1 and todays tech , 4 to 12 years down the road i just hope i have the health to ride these type of machines

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

Craig - Sydney said:

Has to be 16.5" wheels as this is the size where most of the development is done for teams for moto gp and other big bore classes where wheel sizes are free.

Can't be 16500 rpm as that would need considerable engine redesign since the forces increase by the square of the engine rpm or speed.




I just can't see a manufacturer going with 16.5 wheels in this market. Special tires for gixxers only? That won't fly with marketing. 16.5 redline for the 600 will. 16.5 redline for the 1000 is like a $20,000 engine.

16.5 is going to be the new wheel size. They have to start putting the trick parts on street bikes so they can use them to race SS. It all has to be on a production bike first, that will become the new standard size. 16.5= wheel size now stop thinking.

wakojoe said:

16.5 is going to be the new wheel size. They have to start putting the trick parts on street bikes so they can use them to race SS. It all has to be on a production bike first, that will become the new standard size. 16.5= wheel size now stop thinking.



see guys, all that you need to do is think about racing, and you can figure out what the bikk will look like.

next up...... f/i.....now just what do those darn rules say about injectors for next year?????

jeffw said:


wakojoe said:

16.5 is going to be the new wheel size. They have to start putting the trick parts on street bikes so they can use them to race SS. It all has to be on a production bike first, that will become the new standard size. 16.5= wheel size now stop thinking.



see guys, all that you need to do is think about racing, and you can figure out what the bikk will look like.

next up...... f/i.....now just what do those darn rules say about injectors for next year?????



I know, I know..."Restricted to stock throttle bodies and air intake boxes."

16.5 wheels for the road. ok... I'll concede that then. Dunno if it will fly with the public just yet.

dual-injector system is possible jeffw. otherwise Honda will eat Suzuki for lunch at AMA

Damned.... I have to start saving bucks I guess....

cosworth said:


Craig - Sydney said:

Has to be 16.5" wheels as this is the size where most of the development is done for teams for moto gp and other big bore classes where wheel sizes are free.

Can't be 16500 rpm as that would need considerable engine redesign since the forces increase by the square of the engine rpm or speed.




I just can't see a manufacturer going with 16.5 wheels in this market. Special tires for gixxers only? That won't fly with marketing. 16.5 redline for the 600 will. 16.5 redline for the 1000 is like a $20,000 engine.



Do you guys remember Honda's CBR900RR coming equiped with 16in fronts. At that time, the 900 was the only sportbike with a 16in front while everyone else was running 17inch. If they really wanted to make 16.5 in, they can do it. Plus it maybe a new start of the standard to come since everyone has an option of racing 16.5 in in GPs, WSB, etc..

the bike will be blue and white w/ suzuki stickers on it..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

2 injectors per cylinder just like the 600rr the main injector and a shower type up stream. However this was done to the 600rr to sustain combustion at higher rpms.............................................. ... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif


http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif...................................... ...... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

Reading about this is getting me "anxious" the same way porn gets me horney. I gotta go find my chick, I need her to take care of me, and take my mind off this, cause I know my lil 750 wont help right now :-(. Humm, If I just explain I need her to take my mind off this speculation, think I can get her to be with me continuously in bed for the next three weeks??? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif

Did someone say (new 750)with different body style but close to 600/1000
or a possible aniversary 1000........ Hmmmmmmm .......

ride today , i really see no diff between cb750f and a z1 ect.... at that time.... just ride cause u know not when it ends,,,, and many have left recently........


its not how long ,,,,it's quality

pics from that daytona test can you notice anything?

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/est11_5flg_2ejpg.jpg

TWO
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/test1_5flg_2ejpg.jpg

#3
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/test8_5flg_2ejpg.jpg

sullytrnygsxr02750 said:

ride today , i really see no diff between cb750f and a z1 ect.... at that time.... just ride cause u know not when it ends,,,, and many have left recently........


its not how long ,,,,it's quality



Is this sentences? This is the second post I don't understand... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

shn750 said:


cosworth said:


Craig - Sydney said:

Has to be 16.5" wheels as this is the size where most of the development is done for teams for moto gp and other big bore classes where wheel sizes are free.

Can't be 16500 rpm as that would need considerable engine redesign since the forces increase by the square of the engine rpm or speed.




I just can't see a manufacturer going with 16.5 wheels in this market. Special tires for gixxers only? That won't fly with marketing. 16.5 redline for the 600 will. 16.5 redline for the 1000 is like a $20,000 engine.



Do you guys remember Honda's CBR900RR coming equiped with 16in fronts. At that time, the 900 was the only sportbike with a 16in front while everyone else was running 17inch. If they really wanted to make 16.5 in, they can do it. Plus it maybe a new start of the standard to come since everyone has an option of racing 16.5 in in GPs, WSB, etc..



16.5 is no big deal and it would take the tyre manufacturers no time at all to make a treaded street version.

I am sure it is this way as when I try to get the 17" Dunlop slicks in Sydney the distributor is telling me there is less and less to choose from and that 16.5" is starting to dominate the product list.

there is hundreds of possibility's http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

off topic but go here for the zx 10r specs and write up.

http://www.mcnews.com.au/

go to late braking news

john72 said:

pics from that daytona test can you notice anything?

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/est11_5flg_2ejpg.jpg



That front wheel does look a little smaller ... or is that just my mind/eyes and the camera perspective playing tricks on me!?!?

jeffw said:

I was joking on the new bike thing for next year:
<ul type="square"> Yes an all new 600 with very trick stuff (hp increase, weight loss, 1k styling &amp; frame, new brakes &amp; braking components, increased rpm, etc)
Trick 750 (same bike but with a bunch of new parts)
New gsxr-1000. If you look at the 1000SS rules for next year, you just might have some idea of what the bike will look like. You really think that Aaron was on a 03 bike at the last Daytona tire test (where he was faster than the Honda superbikes)?
Also some sort of 500cc machine???
[/list]

Each of the above bike is said to have new titanium parts.... if I were a gussing man I would say valves. Lots of adjustable stuff. Should be a great new model year.

Now these would just be my guesses http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/idea.gif And no I will not say a word about a gsxv type bike.



Jeff, when you say "lots of adjustable stuff", do you mean that Suzuki finally will be putting in adjustable cams?

Jeff

Will all be revealed by suzuki on or about 12 sept about the 04 line up? (including specs) or is it a brief glimpse

When will there be definite details (or anything eg date of release) about the gsxv? (or is there nothing official yet, ie we should not know about it yet and suzuki's giving you a http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif for putting the word out about it)

Thanks

Damn it i cant wait now i am decding on 03 or wait for 04 with the r1 comming out and alot more new stuff!!! But most likely we will get a good glimpse of the 04 at 9-12? Anybody can confirm that?

Vincent Chan

yeah i'm holdin on, but i'm gaggin for a K3 i just dunno if i can wait...! need need need....
thanks to all who posted would just love more rumours on the new K4

it wouldn't hurt to let us know a bit sooner now would it........would it....?????

john72 said:

pics from that daytona test can you notice anything?

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/est11_5flg_2ejpg.jpg




Yea its the 04 750 with 1000 race glass on it.

So the speculation tends to agree it's a 16.5 inch tyre.
Now can anyone come up with any street benefits, if any?
Let me have a go:
More tyre wear.
Fewer tyre choices.
More expensive tyre choices.

Whoops, let me try again.......nope I can't think of any, okay maybe less rubber weight?

When Honda first came out with the 16inchers there were all these articles,
rightly or wrongly criticizing the tyre, washes out, tucks in, bla. bla. bla.
Dejavoooo + 1/2inch?
Or maybe the 17inch fibre BSTs will be a popular mod for the 04s.
Carbon fibre wheels still banned in racing, correct?

stam said:

So the speculation tends to agree it's a 16.5 inch tyre.
Now can anyone come up with any street benefits, if any?
Let me have a go:
More tyre wear.
Fewer tyre choices.
More expensive tyre choices.

Whoops, let me try again.......nope I can't think of any, okay maybe less rubber weight?

When Honda first came out with the 16inchers there were all these articles,
rightly or wrongly criticizing the tyre, washes out, tucks in, bla. bla. bla.
Dejavoooo + 1/2inch?
Or maybe the 17inch fibre BSTs will be a popular mod for the 04s.
Carbon fibre wheels still banned in racing, correct?



Stam, Hondas choice back then was against the flow. Most of the racing development is in 16.5" now. So it would be a logical choice for sport bikes to go to.

stam said:Carbon fibre wheels still banned in racing, correct?




Yep, cause you can't x-ray it (or something along those lines) to check for stress fractures, or any fractures (so i've been told)...

Enough http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif about all this speculation and guessing on what's gonna happen to the Gixxers for '04!!!!! It's making me sick!! No one is gonna know until September, and those that do actually know (like Jeff) ARE NOT GONNA SAY $HIT!!!!

Jeff is teasing all of you (us)...Like puppets on a string!!!!!

According to Al Luddington in a post at roadracingworld.com Yates was on a 04 spec superstock gsxr1000 at Daytona and hit a top speed of 181 mph. See the post about Mladin's comments on the 04 rule changes.

Man I'm getting all excited thinking about the changes coming up. Even though I won't have enough to buy one until say 2006. I'm ready to see the new bikes on the 12th!

Wow i havent been on the board for a while and all this talk about the 04 and the gsvr and what not is making me think twice about keeping my current bike... i put so much money and time into the damn bike not so sure if i made the rigth decisions now... i guess well just have to wait till sept to find out for sure the changes

jeff thanks for the tid bit info on the new bikes good to know we have members here that know more then the dealers sometimes... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif

jeffw said:

Suzuki will release no new bikes for 2004..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif



Here's what I think you're trying to say...

Suzuki will release no new bike for 2004 because their partnership with Kawasaki has reached a new level. The two companies, who are now legally one and the same entity, will merge physically and the name of the company will change to reflect that.

The possible names under which Suzuki/Kawasaki will operate as of Sept. 2003:

SuKa Motors

Kawazuki

Kazuki

Susaki

The new body styles of ' 03 (the 1000 for suzuki and the 600 for kawasaki) share a lot of smiliarities...
The '04 SuKa models will be a further blending of the two...

As for 16.5 ...you'll find out soon enough... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I thought that SUzuki &amp; Kawi were still separate and were only sharing certain parts of their manufacturing development..........??

And I also heard last year, or maybe at the beginning of this year that the first Kawi/Suzuki will be coming out in 3 years and it will be called neither Suzuki or Kawi (or any comb of the two names!)

Flo said:


jeffw said:

Suzuki will release no new bikes for 2004..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif



Here's what I think you're trying to say...

Suzuki will release no new bike for 2004 because their partnership with Kawasaki has reached a new level. The two companies, who are now legally one and the same entity, will merge physically and the name of the company will change to reflect that.

The possible names under which Suzuki/Kawasaki will operate as of Sept. 2003:

SuKa Motors

Kawazuki

Kazuki

Susaki

The new body styles of ' 03 (the 1000 for suzuki and the 600 for kawasaki) share a lot of smiliarities...
The '04 SuKa models will be a further blending of the two...

As for 16.5 ...you'll find out soon enough... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif





http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

you know how many people are going to take you serious? but you are pretty funny LOL

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/terminator.JPG

Put your pants down.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Nothing beats a dry feeling...

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/curry.jpg

henkie said:

Put your pants down.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Nothing beats a dry feeling...

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/curry.jpg





That is the sickest "SHIT" I have ever seen! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif

I heard there might be a gsx-r 1000 naked bike, comin out. Sounds like a streetfighter to me.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeze this thread must die!!! .. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

henkie said:
http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/curry.jpg




http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/yumyum.gif

Anymore news on the 04 models?

/me looks at Jeffw http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif

Mini said:

Anymore news on the 04 models?

/me looks at Jeffw http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif



Yeah Jeff......
We all know Suzuki HAS to redo the 600, or their sale are gonna drop off the face of the earth!!!
I'm not too concerned about the 750...But is the current 1000 considered only an upgrade of the '01-'02 1000? And not a re-designed model?
I don't really want specific details (ie. what '5' was and 16.5) I just wanna know if a new 1000 is coming out???????

comon comon... 9 more days... they won't blame you for telling us a bit more http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif A totally redesigned 750 with numbers relatively close to the 1k's?

Mini said:

comon comon... 9 more days... they won't blame you for telling us a bit more http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif A totally redesigned 750 with numbers relatively close to the 1k's?



new 600.... I mean a really new 600. New 750 (this should be interesting), unchainged 1k....

The key words for next year are: less weight, more hp, higher reving motors. Just 1 week until the US release.... the Euro folks will hear before then.

I predict that the new GSX-R600 is going to shake up the 600cc category like the GSX-R1000 shook up the liter bike category in 2001.

I predict 115-120hp out of a 600cc motor with a 16,500rpm redline and a dry weight of 350lbs.

Now that will be something. Who's with me? I'll be first in line for that addition to my stable.

jeffw said:new 600.... I mean a really new 600. New 750 (this should be interesting), unchainged 1k....
The key words for next year are: less weight, more hp, higher reving motors. Just 1 week until the US release.... the Euro folks will hear before then.



Thanks Jeff http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif
BTW - you spelt "unchanged" wrong http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

Jeff:
So, no new 1000..........Is the current (2003) 1000 considered to be an 'upgrade' or a 're-design'????

So where can we (those who don't live in the States and get very LIMITED bike coverage) see all what's released on Sept.12???

henkie said:

Put your pants down.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/nono.gif
Nothing beats a dry feeling...

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/curry.jpg



hahahahahaha that is the funniest shit i have ever seen http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

Vincent Chan

by the way where do you guys get all these funny pics?

sweet2bad said:

So where can we (those who don't live in the States and get very LIMITED bike coverage) see all what's released on Sept.12???



I'd say the best place would be right on this board. It'll be all over the general discussion forum.

I know this isn't the proper forum, but since we're on the topic of new Suzuki bikes, is there any mention of a twin sportbike next year? Either a TLR or an SVR. Just out of curiosity.

Flo said:


jeffw said:

Suzuki will release no new bikes for 2004..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/spit.gif



Here's what I think you're trying to say...

Suzuki will release no new bike for 2004 because their partnership with Kawasaki has reached a new level. The two companies, who are now legally one and the same entity, will merge physically and the name of the company will change to reflect that.

The possible names under which Suzuki/Kawasaki will operate as of Sept. 2003:

SuKa Motors

Kawazuki

Kazuki

Susaki

The new body styles of ' 03 (the 1000 for suzuki and the 600 for kawasaki) share a lot of smiliarities...
The '04 SuKa models will be a further blending of the two...

As for 16.5 ...you'll find out soon enough... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif




HA HA! SuKa in Russian means BITCH.

I could really say: I'm gonna ride my bitch today and it wouldn't be offensive to all the women who find it offensive!!! HA HA... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

NUCLEUS said:

I predict 115-120hp out of a 600cc motor with a 16,500rpm redline and a dry weight of 350lbs.




better guess would be 15.5k rpm, 16.5 is a bit high.

jeffw said:


NUCLEUS said:

I predict 115-120hp out of a 600cc motor with a 16,500rpm redline and a dry weight of 350lbs.




better guess would be 15.5k rpm, 16.5 is a bit high.



16.5 is the wheel size..... Over and over again!

Listen I just talked to the Suzuki dearler I worked for, and he said he thinks the bikes will be late this year. He said around Christmas time. I said something about a limited edition 750, and he said " Maybe". I'm hoping that was a " http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif Maybe http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" thats how it sounded to me anyway. He didn't clue me in as to what was going to hit, but it will be a great year. It just sucks that when you buy a new Gixxer somebody else comes with a half hearted attemt to compete, and Suzuki squashes them leaving us wishing we had the next best thing.

jeffw,
Do you care to drop some knowledge?

I think jeffw is pulling our legs about the Suzi????

Looks like the Kwaka has 17" rims.

jeffw said:


Mini said:

comon comon... 9 more days... they won't blame you for telling us a bit more http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif A totally redesigned 750 with numbers relatively close to the 1k's?



new 600.... I mean a really new 600. New 750 (this should be interesting), unchainged 1k....

The key words for next year are: less weight, more hp, higher reving motors. Just 1 week until the US release.... the Euro folks will hear before then.



Thx for the info jeffw!! http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif Is the new 750 gonna come in two packages? Standard vs Limited (all tricked out) edition? Will they sale the 750's for 04 only and stop the production line after that? (since you mentioned that it'll be the last generation of the 750) Let me take a guess, the new 750 will be light (maybe 355 lbs) and will have 140-150 hp at the rear wheel? Nice trick parts like the ohlins forks,rear shock, steering damper etc...?

As for the new 600, how about 345lbs with 110 at the REAR?

BTW, anyone heard that Honda might release street legal version of the Rcv211v?? True V5 engine for the street.

I thought this was what Jeff said was going to be announced on Sept. 12

(Yes an all new 600 with very trick stuff (hp increase, weight loss, 1k styling &amp; frame, new brakes &amp; braking components, increased rpm, etc)

Trick 750 (same bike but with a bunch of new parts)

New gsxr-1000. If you look at the 1000SS rules for next year, you just might have some idea of what the bike will look like. You really think that Aaron was on a 03 bike at the last Daytona tire test (where he was faster than the Honda superbikes)?

Also some sort of 500cc machine???)

Is he changing his story?

jeffw said:

I never said that a v-4 would replace the gsxr-1000.

Will I will say 16.5




16.5 huh.. I would guess... either wheels or lbs.

GXSG2000 said:

I thought this was what Jeff said was going to be announced on Sept. 12

(Yes an all new 600 with very trick stuff (hp increase, weight loss, 1k styling &amp; frame, new brakes &amp; braking components, increased rpm, etc)

Trick 750 (same bike but with a bunch of new parts)

New gsxr-1000. If you look at the 1000SS rules for next year, you just might have some idea of what the bike will look like. You really think that Aaron was on a 03 bike at the last Daytona tire test (where he was faster than the Honda superbikes)?

Also some sort of 500cc machine???)

Is he changing his story?





who me????? just ignore the FOD aobut a new gsxr-1000, The 750 just might be a bit more trick than what people may think. Guess everyone will know this time next week.

What does FOD mean ? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

MrWicked1k said:

What does FOD mean ? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif



I dunno http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

Pic of 2004 GSXR600?

From another site

http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=21607

FOD is an aeronautical term..Foreign Object Damage. It refers to Crap or junk laying about that gets sucked in to turbines which F's them up.

In other words things about the 1000 where crap. Can't get em right all the time, or maybe misinformation, or who knows.

RRG said:

Pic of 2004 GSXR600?

From another site

http://www.sportbikes.ws/showthread.php?s=&amp;threadid=21607




http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/gsxr6003.jpg


if that is the actual 04 600 i guess looks wise its nothing new im just waiting for the specs to actually come out.. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

I dont know about the rest of you but I hope dodge comes out with a new version of the tomahawk http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/piss.gif one that has 800hp 6 tires and even less aerodymanics http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bitchslap.gif

BUt on a serious note I hope the GSXR1000 still remains the king http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/gsxr6003.jpg

does that front wheel/tire look small to anyone else?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

TheMole said:

does that front wheel/tire look small to anyone else?? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif



The rims are the same diameter.

http://www.gixxer.com/uploads/gsxr6003.jpg


That is some Photoshop http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif The swingarm and the frame are not even the same color. I don't think Suzuki would use that same old swingarm anyway, it would have to be updated along with the rest of the bike. Plus look at the fork, its gold and silver.


The only reason the photos of all the other bikes are out is because they need a head start, in sales, and in a race.

The new R1 looks good but the Honda, and Kawi need some help.

Of course it's a photoshop....the 600 doesn't need an exhaust valve...

It could be a prototype picture. One of the test mules or somthing. The forks might be gold plated instead of the 1000 black coated. They're the conventional type.

But, why the conventional forks? Why the old style rear brake linkage? But the radial brakes are black and not gold like the 1000. I don't know...I might believe that's a legitimate shot of the bike.

jman050 said:


...BUt on a serious note I hope the GSXR1000 still remains the king http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Why? Wouldn't it be good to get something even faster and more nimble than a 1k? Who gives a fuck what name is on the tank?

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif..... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cry.gif........Sep 12 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/punk.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/burnout.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/lick.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/applause.gif

Didnt any one notice the letters on the bottom of the picture? CG by FDW??
Computer generated by FDW http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Palomartian said:


jman050 said:


...BUt on a serious note I hope the GSXR1000 still remains the king http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Why? Wouldn't it be good to get something even faster and more nimble than a 1k? Who gives a fuck what name is on the tank?




DITTO http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif

Motorscooter said:


Palomartian said:


jman050 said:


...BUt on a serious note I hope the GSXR1000 still remains the king http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cheers.gif



Why? Wouldn't it be good to get something even faster and more nimble than a 1k? Who gives a fuck what name is on the tank?




DITTO http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/squid.gif



I agree with you on that but do you really whant to put up with all the kawi fans saying kawi is better bla bla.. and them actually being right I know I dont http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif that. Even if there is no distictly "better" bike there will be a million GSXRvs ZX10vr CBR1k vs R1 forums with nothing but peoples opinions and no right answer. I dont know about everyone else but I want a right answer

Dan you changing your mind on the Kwaks? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/banana.gif

That 600 pic sux. The brakes aren't even radial mount jobbies. I've seen pics of the new 600 with radial brakes, and besides an aexhaust valve being in the pic, that end can is massively loooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg.

Starter98 said:

That 600 pic sux. The brakes aren't even radial mount jobbies. I've seen pics of the new 600 with radial brakes, and besides an aexhaust valve being in the pic, that end can is massively loooooonnnnnnnnnnnngggggggggggggg.



Aren't they going to have inverted forks also?

Guy I met the other weekend went to Alabama and paid $9,300 out the door. Not sure what dealer though.

jeffw: ok 3 1/2 more days till the Vegas show. Now, can you tell us a bit more about the 750? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif PLZ PLZ PLZ

I went to the Motorcycle Stuff dealer show today, and I spoke to the Yoshimura rep. This is what he said:

1. The Gsxr 1000 is unchanged, I'm sure it will have minor upgrades.
2.The Gsxr 750 is going to blow your mind, and is more trick then we were thinking.
3. The Gsxr 600 is where its at, the badest bike out for 04 no matter what the size is.
4. They have a Yosh Box for the new 1k, so we can get our bikes remapped real soon.

Take that how you want, it means a whole lot to me!!

wakojoe said:

I went to the Motorcycle Stuff dealer show today, and I spoke to the Yoshimura rep. This is what he said:

1. The Gsxr 1000 is unchanged, I'm sure it will have minor upgrades.
2.The Gsxr 750 is going to blow your mind, and is more trick then we were thinking.
3. The Gsxr 600 is where its at, the badest bike out for 04 no matter what the size is.
4. They have a Yosh Box for the new 1k, so we can get our bikes remapped real soon.

Take that how you want, it means a whole lot to me!!




how can it be the baddest around no matter what the size if there are still the 750 and 1000 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif

wakojoe said:

I went to the Motorcycle Stuff dealer show today, and I spoke to the Yoshimura rep. This is what he said:

1. The Gsxr 1000 is unchanged, I'm sure it will have minor upgrades.
2.The Gsxr 750 is going to blow your mind, and is more trick then we were thinking.
3. The Gsxr 600 is where its at, the badest bike out for 04 no matter what the size is.
4. They have a Yosh Box for the new 1k, so we can get our bikes remapped real soon.

Take that how you want, it means a whole lot to me!!





that sounds about right to me....

wonder if the big bad 750 is getting the send off.... going out in style i guess http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/dunno.gif

the 600 market is pretty damn competative http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

jman050 said:
how can it be the baddest around no matter what the size if there are still the 750 and 1000 http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wtf.gif



The 6 is going to be all new with all Suzuki's focus. We all know the big bikes will kick the little 6's ass. Pound for pound it will be a badass great looking bike for 04. So for an all around great bike it will be the baddest for 04.

i don't post much no more but a 750 of average tweaking wil KILL all. i hate politics when it comes to ridin''''''''


i think if you never road dirt then a 1k may be all you'll ever want


if you've come up as many americans, shwins,mini bikes, dirt 125,250,,,mabe 500's the 600-750 will be all you ever want, cause it's the fastest that you will ever go

just look at that kawi that(7 somthinh) that kept with most

these guy's with the mega connections don't even put 10k mi ayear,,, ie--- posers


ride what you got and if you can afford the newest and latest ...god speed

2 more days! 2 more days!
Jeffw... No more hints???
Or teaser Pics like you had for the 03 K1?

locoboy750 said:

2 more days! 2 more days!
Jeffw... No more hints???
Or teaser Pics like you had for the 03 K1?




Friday is a travel day... Saturday is the official launch of the all new 600 (+8hp, -7 lb, 15.5k rpm, adj 3-clamp, s/a pivot, some ti valves and ogoodies, 1k style frame, stacked headlight but not the same as the 1k h/l) and 750. Narrorw motor &amp; new frame.

I have heard radial m/c &amp; clutch in the works as well???

The 04 should be the "swan song" for the gsxr-750....by one now before it passes for good.
But then again... I could just be dreaming.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif

I can't go.................but my dealer will be calling me from the show for ordering opportunities. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif The Kawasaki show is the same time ( of course) and he will let me know whats available in what colors from both manufacturers. He brings me back the dealer brochures and info for the bikes and I keep them in zip lock baggies along with the consumer brocheres and magazine tests for each model I have. I have fun collecting that stuff...... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Have fun JeffW..............wish I could be there.

Thanks JeffW Have fun!
Meanwhile I will just wait I guess... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif

jeffw said:


Friday is a travel day... Saturday is the official launch of the all new 600 (+8hp, -7 lb, 15.5k rpm, adj 3-clamp, s/a pivot, some ti valves and ogoodies, 1k style frame, stacked headlight but not the same as the 1k h/l) and 750. Narrorw motor &amp; new frame.

I have heard radial m/c &amp; clutch in the works as well???

The 04 should be the "swan song" for the gsxr-750....by one now before it passes for good.
But then again... I could just be dreaming.... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif



- does this mean WE will have information on this by this weekend also???

Jeffw,
I've been axiously waiting to trade my '02 750 in for a brand new '04 1k since the '03 1k's came out (hoping some better color schemes in '04). But you've got me confused. What can you tell us about the '04 1k? Is it going to be a major change or just new colors and a few tweaks? You've been very open about the 750 and 600, please throw me what you can on the 1k. And feel free to type as looooooooooooong as you have stuff to say. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif The waiting is just about to kill me! Thanks for all of your info and advice. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

I would love to know something about the 04 1k myself. I just sold my 02 1k and I can get a pretty good deal on a 03 1k,but I need to know something about the 04.Please Jeff w give us some kind of info before I pull my hair out,ha ha!

Hmmm the 750 should be a very interesting bike... Is it gonna be a 04 only?

did all three of you not read the page before???

jeffw said:

Someone around here needs to put the pipe down.

I can assure you that Suzuki (and Honda for that part: inline 4 my ass) are not sitting back doing nothing for 2004.

You also need to understand that Suzuki feels that the 2003 1k is nothing more than an <font color="yellow"> **UPGRADE** </font> . You just might be shocked very soon...
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif






DAMIT JUST SPILL IT ALREADY!!!

your getting me nearing the point were I get upset, Don't make me beat you with useless online pix of pointless things to make fun of you till you post whats going on over at zuke land. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

just answer me this, will it be a New design or will it be another upgrade for the line up. and none of this
some will some wont' http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif
each one in detail

600 yes/no will be changed
750 yes/no will be changed
1000 yes/no will be changed
busa yes/YES will get turbo putting 500hp to the ground. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

okay ignore my last one but the other 3 are begining to start pissing me off http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

G-FORCE said:


jeffw said:

Someone around here needs to put the pipe down.

I can assure you that Suzuki (and Honda for that part: inline 4 my ass) are not sitting back doing nothing for 2004.

You also need to understand that Suzuki feels that the 2003 1k is nothing more than an <font color="yellow"> **UPGRADE** </font> . You just might be shocked very soon...
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif





anyone have a delorian with a flux capasitor so that I can head into the future and check out the new gsxr line so that I can report back to you all?!?!?!



yha but my flux capasitor burnt out, if you got a spare you can use it http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

R3DLiN3 said:


jeffw said:

Someone around here needs to put the pipe down.

I can assure you that Suzuki (and Honda for that part: inline 4 my ass) are not sitting back doing nothing for 2004.

You also need to understand that Suzuki feels that the 2003 1k is nothing more than an <font color="yellow"> **UPGRADE** </font> . You just might be shocked very soon...
http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/thumb.gif






DAMIT JUST SPILL IT ALREADY!!!

your getting me nearing the point were I get upset, Don't make me beat you with useless online pix of pointless things to make fun of you till you post whats going on over at zuke land. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

just answer me this, will it be a New design or will it be another upgrade for the line up. and none of this
some will some wont' http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/bs.gif
each one in detail

600 yes/no will be changed
750 yes/no will be changed
1000 yes/no will be changed
busa yes/YES will get turbo putting 500hp to the ground. http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

okay ignore my last one but the other 3 are begining to start pissing me off http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif



Calm down. The world will know in a couple days (i.e. this weekend).

How are there no SPY shots going around (other than the lame photo-shop attampt at the 600)... I'm tired of all the R1 guys flapping their gums....

- I was supposed to get my bike this saturday, but im gonna wait..

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/sleep.gif 2-3 more days left... http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/wait.gif

I would like to give Yamaha and the R1 a big http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/flipa.gif. My roomate has an 03 R1 and I beat him on my 01 750, so now he is getting the 04, but my 03 1k is still going to stomp his ass.

R1 180 hp with ramair, at the crank. It will make 135-140 at the rear wheel after all the hype.

So all the Yamaha guys are getting all juicy for nothing. I remember watching a 750 that made 118ish (stock) Gixxer hp beat the R1, so how can it beat the 135ish (stock) 1k Gixxer power? It is known that a Gixxer with less power is just as fast or faster then the rest so we can hang on to the #1 spot untill 05.

I can't beleive absolutely no one had real pictures of the 04 GSXR 600. Jeff said the Euro release is earlier than ours so come on the Vegas show is in a couple days someone has to have something. Jeff come on please?

1st post!
I went down to Bert's (a large bike dealer here in SoCal) to check out an '03 600 &amp; 750. I mentioned the Sept. 12 Vegas release of the '04 models, and he told me that the new models won't hit the dealers until December!!! does this sound right to anyone? or is he just trying to get me to pick-up an '03? JeffW, not looking for any additional specs but can you tell me how soon the '04s will be available for sale? I was hoping to pick-up the new 600 in October. Any insight is greatly apprecated, thanks in advance!

I'm not Jeff but there is no way the 04 models will be available in oct.

MTgixxer6 said:

1st post!
I went down to Bert's (a large bike dealer here in SoCal) to check out an '03 600 &amp; 750. I mentioned the Sept. 12 Vegas release of the '04 models, and he told me that the new models won't hit the dealers until December!!! does this sound right to anyone? or is he just trying to get me to pick-up an '03? JeffW, not looking for any additional specs but can you tell me how soon the '04s will be available for sale? I was hoping to pick-up the new 600 in October. Any insight is greatly apprecated, thanks in advance!




You aren't going to see them in Oct, or probably even before the new year. When did the 03 1k hit the dealer, Feb/March?

Ok, so I'm new here. What I'm wondering if who IS Jeff? What do you do and how do you know about the upcoming bikes? Are you involved with Suzuki somehow?

Later.

mckeand13 said:

Ok, so I'm new here. What I'm wondering if who IS Jeff? What do you do and how do you know about the upcoming bikes? Are you involved with Suzuki somehow?




i have inside information that jeffw really works for yamaha. he gets some sort of sick pleasure from getting all of the suzuki lovers' hopes up with his fabricated information and then watching them get dashed on the rocks when the truth comes out. he does this every year. welcome to the board.

somejeffguy said:


mckeand13 said:

Ok, so I'm new here. What I'm wondering if who IS Jeff? What do you do and how do you know about the upcoming bikes? Are you involved with Suzuki somehow?




i have inside information that jeffw really works for yamaha. he gets some sort of sick pleasure from getting all of the suzuki lovers' hopes up with his fabricated information and then watching them get dashed on the rocks when the truth comes out. he does this every year. welcome to the board.




http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif That's a good one http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Anyways. Sept 12th!!! Come on folks!! Some pictures!!! I wanna see the 04's!!!!

jeffw said:

I never said that a v-4 would replace the gsxr-1000.

Will I will say 16.5



So we now know that 16.5 was not the size of the wheels, so what was it? Maybe I miss something if so please fill me in.

I was wondering how long it was going to take for someone to ask that after the endless posts about it.

No worries, if you got any of these bikes and a tape measure out, you could probably find something that size.

o.k. i've read on other websites that the 750 will have 148 at crank ,600 to be 130 and the new cbr 1000rr to be 163 horsepower.r1 to be 180 with ram air??? http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gifi wonder if thats superchargeing the air into vents???!!!!!! 04 is going to be a great year!

I just wish they would hurry up and make them available to the public.