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Gixxer1000Girly

10-29-2006, 11:08 PM

Just to clarify.. I have been riding for years just everyone elses bikes. Nothing bigger than a 650 though. I have also been riding dirt bikes since I was 9 (now 35). I am wondering what the biggest differance is- the handeling? The increase in power? Are any of you riding R1's -what was the jump up like?

You might have been riding for years, but not your own bike. Which does not mean you have the experiance like most people who ride their own bikes. If you have never rode anything bigger then a 600 I would not even get on that 1000. I ride at least 4-5 days a week and have been riding for about a 12 years....Let me tell you a 1000 is no joke even stock. My bike is no where near stock and is a beast...So someone learning on a stock 1000 = death wish, sorry it is plain and simple.

R1 = Garbage. LOL learn on that and pray to god you don't go fast and get a tank slap after 140mph+ from the garbage handling.

Almost forgot when you can hang with guys on 1000's in the twisties on a 600 then I say step up to a 1000.

gixxergrl1000

10-29-2006, 11:22 PM

Ok.. Thanks... I'm starting to get the point. I'll get something smaller and work my way up to it. I have Lots of storage space any advice on letting the 1000 sit for a while(will the fuel lines clog etc...).?

Gixxer1000Girly

10-29-2006, 11:23 PM

gixxergrl1000

10-29-2006, 11:28 PM

I can't sell it! Not an option. It was given to me to ride and I will ride it! I'm just not going to be stupid about it . Thats why I'm asking for advice.

gixxergrl1000

10-29-2006, 11:45 PM

I meant I will not be stupid about it and will hold off on riding it. I said I would store it for now. Ride something smaller. This bike has serious sentimental value..it's not going anywhere. I'm not worried about the value the bike was left to me. I paid nothing for it, so I will loose nothing. I really do value all of your opinions. That was really not a very nice thing to say. If I wanted to kill myself I wouldn't have come here to do research in the first place. Maybe this is not the place for me to come for advice.

Cin

10-30-2006, 01:10 AM

[QUOTE=gixxergrl1000]I meant I will not be stupid about it and will hold off on riding it. I said I would store it for now. Ride something smaller. This bike has serious sentimental value..it's not going anywhere. I'm not worried about the value the bike was left to me.

Why is the bike so sentimental? I'm not trying to get into your business but you are so set on keeping it. You could sell it and have more cash for a new bike that will fit you.

grafix43

10-30-2006, 02:15 AM

forget what everyone here says... just get on the bike and fuckin ride it.... 1000's are slow and easy to ride, so just jump on and go crazy cause you've already rode other bikes so im sure you know what you're doing...... honor your friend by doing 180 mph on the freeway, thats what a real woman would do....

LexusCruiser

10-30-2006, 07:01 AM

Go do a search for my post about my brothers first 1000. He rode a Katana 600 for a few months and decided he wanted a new CBR1000RR. He had it for 28 days and looped it.

Badiguana

10-30-2006, 08:39 AM

Just to clarify.. I have been riding for years just everyone elses bikes. Nothing bigger than a 650 though. I have also been riding dirt bikes since I was 9 (now 35). I am wondering what the biggest differance is- the handeling? The increase in power? Are any of you riding R1's -what was the jump up like?

if you've been riding dirt bikes most of your life then you may be ok...Only you know the answer really, what people are telling you here for the most part is true, it is unforgiving and has to be treated with a lot of respect.
I think anybody would need to do at least a year on a middleweight before jumping on a 1000, not just to gain some experience but so you can really enjoy the 1000 for what it can give you, you risk to be overwhelmed by it and end up riding around in 6th all time, never really tasting what this bike has to offer, this would be an insult to the person that left it to you and to the bike...

Whatever you decide just remember that this is not just about you, with the speed and accelleration this bike has on tap you are not just risking your own life......

Let us know how you get on....

Chillywater

10-30-2006, 08:50 AM

Well then do us all a favor before you kill yourself on the 1000...

You + Draino = No Pain Death, So Drink Up! :yumyum :biggrin :biggrin

thats a bit uncalled-for...she's sitting there saying she's going to learn on something else, but she wants to keep the 1000 for later, and you tell her to drink draino for what reason? maybe you should be the one drinking draino..bitch:flipoff

Gixxer1000Girly

10-30-2006, 10:56 AM

thats a bit uncalled-for...she's sitting there saying she's going to learn on something else, but she wants to keep the 1000 for later, and you tell her to drink draino for what reason? maybe you should be the one drinking draino..bitch:flipoff

Uh yeah right guy... :nono :flipoff

Chillywater

10-30-2006, 02:57 PM

Uh yeah right guy... :nono :flipoff

thanks for the neg rep, for what its worth it didn't change a thing:D

Kato617

10-30-2006, 03:46 PM

Put the BULL (1000) away, ride something for at least a year. Come back to BULL when you master the smaller bike.

Send the 1000 to me and I keep it up and running. :biggrin

Good Luck

Ride.

10-30-2006, 09:14 PM

Chillywater

10-30-2006, 10:29 PM

Be sure you read the advice I gave you in your other thread.

DON'T drink draino. However, if you at any time begin to think you're the exception to the rule and decide to just ride the 1000, then you might as well just drink up. :D:flipoff

i agree, but the starter of the thread made it clear she wanted to put the 1000 in storage and start learning on something smaller, that's why i feel "gixxer1000girly's" comments were completley out of hand, with that said, i'd like to see "gixxer1000girly" drinkin the draino...

Eric1000

10-30-2006, 10:48 PM

My .02 I think you should do just what you said and put the bike up and get somethign smaller to start on. Also please remember when you think your ready to ride teh 1000 be careful. I'm a 200+ guy and have been ridding for 10 years and I just jumped up to the 1000 this year. That bike has allot of power and it has come out of my hand a few time just ridding around town. So again please be careful I know all of us on here don't want to hear about another fallen ridder

Good luck

SPL170db

10-30-2006, 11:31 PM

Just to clarify.. I have been riding for years just everyone elses bikes. Nothing bigger than a 650 though. I have also been riding dirt bikes since I was 9 (now 35). I am wondering what the biggest differance is- the handeling? The increase in power? Are any of you riding R1's -what was the jump up like?

I had been riding motocross for about 10 years before I ever threw a leg over a streetbike, including a decent amount of time on a Kawi KX-500. Anyone that's ever ridden a 500cc 2-stroke can tell you that thing has insane acceleration, and believe me it was needed as pre-requisite before every throwing a leg over a modern day liter-bike.

These things are perhaps the most unforgiving bikes you can ride. The combination of lightweight and insane HP makes for a dangerous combo for those that are not skilled to wield it. You may in fact be responsible, but even 9 years of riding dirt bikes does not make you "SKILLED" to ride a street legal superbike, they are 2 completely different skill-sets..........some food for thought.

Grandevil

10-30-2006, 11:40 PM

Get some stands, put the bike up on em, get some fuel stabilizer and a battery tender and it should be okay for a while. Start it up and let it run a few minutes every couple of weeks. But if the bike is special to you don't get rid of it. Don't worry about the decreased value :rolleyes

Motorcycles shouldn't be used as an investment strategy.

But like SVS said, get a smaller street bike to start out on. It's not the weight. It's the power. The 1000 is snappy in the throttle and it's nothing like a dirtbike. Take the MSf course, it helps even experienced riders learn and utilize emergency maneuvers.

Grandevil

10-30-2006, 11:42 PM

Here's another thing I don't get...why do girly girls always have to put "girl, grl, gurl, gal" in their fucking screen names? :wtf

1tripleO

10-31-2006, 12:13 AM

maybe they enjoy being girly girls:wtf

Suzuki Chelly

10-31-2006, 12:16 AM

Grandevil

10-31-2006, 12:20 AM

maybe they enjoy being girly girls:wtf

Don't start with me.

1tripleO

10-31-2006, 01:39 AM

Don't start with me.

:scratch

gixxerangel30

10-31-2006, 05:15 AM

Go do a search for my post about my brothers first 1000. He rode a Katana 600 for a few months and decided he wanted a new CBR1000RR. He had it for 28 days and looped it.

Hell, A 600 can cause harm! As long as she knows to take it easy everywhere till she is used to it...I don't see any harm...now the other types....oooh Im on a 1000!!! No, give us bad names...if she has it ride it so easy....and build up!

Ride.

10-31-2006, 01:28 PM

Hell, A 600 can cause harm! As long as she knows to take it easy everywhere till she is used to it...I don't see any harm...now the other types....oooh Im on a 1000!!! No, give us bad names...if she has it ride it so easy....and build up!
:hammerHere we go again.

The words "take it easy" are not gonna keep a noob safe on a liter bike. :rolleyes
Without SKILL and EXPERIENCE to keep the bike within the CONTROL that they are seeking, they can TRY as hard as they want to "take is easy" and it just isn't gonna happen without experience.

WILL POWER DOES NOT MAKE YOU A GOOD RIDER!
SKILL FROM EXPERIENCE DOES. :thumbup

And there will NEVER EVER be a replacement for that!

Katastrophe18

11-03-2006, 10:35 PM

Sure there is...common sense. I myself have just pre-ordered a K7 for my first bike. Now explain this: The first bike I rode was a 80cc shitbox offroad. The second was a V-Max, third was an R6 and the fourth was a 600RR. I have never fallen once. Honestly...experience is one of the best things to have, but without common sense and knowledge of yourself, it's useless. Crack the throttle from 0 on any bike and you'll get hurt. To whoever started this post...take a course, learn to ride and don't be a moron. You'll survive well enough. :cheers!

jimbo

11-05-2006, 01:06 AM

Don't even sit on it!!!. (that's a little humor) I'd put it in storage and tripple lock it. I'd just get a smaller bike. the 1k is even alot of bike for many people who do have riding experience (whether they want to admit it or not). Not to let you down as a female, being that I know many who are very good riders, but even your size is a factor. i don't know how much you wieght, but if you are a light person at 5'3, I would seriously recommend going with a smaller bike period. My wife is learning to ride in the spring, and even when she is past the learning and experience gaining period, I could never see having her on one. Many will disagree with me and take offense, but it is from the heart area that I give this advise. Its bad enough that riders have to worry about the cars that are out to run us over, and you don't want to add another 400 cc's to the equasion. Good luck!!

LexusCruiser

11-05-2006, 08:15 AM

No kidding dont even ride it because you will love it and the 600 will feel slow as hell. Seriously though you do need the experience. I always thought people were just hating when they told me not to buy a liter for my first bike. I am very glad I started on a 600. A K4 600 is still a LOT of bike but it taught me a lot. It is like apples and oranges comparing a liter to a 600.

james ames

11-05-2006, 09:23 AM

best thing sell it girl.

deadgarage

11-06-2006, 09:26 PM

Numbers:
There is a variance between multiple sources, used low and high numbers.
Horsepower - 153 to 161 at 11,500 rpm
Torque - Roughly 80 lb ft at 8500 rpm
1/4 mile- approx. 9.79/10.70 seconds at 143/148mph at your size/weight could be faster...
Top gear roll on, from 60 to 80 mph - 2.43 to 2.70 sec - much faster than reading this line.
40 to 120mph, top gear roll on - 10/10.4 seconds.
Top speed - 180mph plus ...
Speed, top gear, under acceleration - 160 to 180mph - 13.8 to 15.0 seconds

That puppy is a versatile critter. Few things on the planet faster.
More comfortable than the 600 and 750. Great grip, suspension and handling. Show stopper, looks.
While the Busa has more torque it suffers from a weight problem.
Busa - near 550lbs
1000 gsx r - 443 lbs
750 gsx r - 442 lbs
600 gsx r - 438 lbs
As you can see the 1000 only gives a 5 pound discount to the 600, and 1 pound to the 750.
As to control/handling.
Seat to grips, 1000 gsx r - 25.3 inches
750 gsx r - 29.3 inches
600 gsx r - 29.3 inches

Seat to peg , 1000 - 17.1 inches
750 - 17.1 inches
600 - 17.1 inches

Grip/Bar rise 1000 - 2.8 inches
750 - 1.7 inches
600 - 1.7 inches
You sit 4inches closer to the grips/bar than the 750/600.
The seat distance to pegs is equal across the board.
But the rise is 1 inch higher than the 750/600.
This takes a significant weight load off of your wrists, shoulders, and neck particularly at normal cruising speeds.

The bike is producing more HP than some cars/vans.
The Brit bike rag 'BIKE' has said this about the 1000 Gixxer, " with a hundred mile an hour 1st gear, the other 5 gears merely determine how long your your prison sentence will be". Aptly, put if not totally accurate.
Your biggest worry's will
Be letting the clutch out for awhile. You might want to lean forward over the tank for awhile at stop signs/lights.
Picking a gear that will let you merge with traffic without lifting/smoking the tire.
Picking a gear that won't have you sideways at every curve, cloverleaf, turn around ramp.
Scrubbing off road speed by downshifting.
Lane changes.
Traffic lane bump/overpass deck rises/dips while accelerating.
Amongst all the rest.
And remember the gixxer family hits the street with a throttle that has close to zero slop. Bumps, looking over your shoulder, and heavy acceleration may generate more speed than you really wanted.
Personally, I would either get rid off it, or at least run her up to operating temp every week or so.
These critters were not meant to be Garage Art, they NEED to be run.
Long term storage would not be a wise choice.
Crap with the turn over in product we are seeing in todays market you might not find parts in another 4-5 years.
Be safe.

Disturbed Element

11-24-2006, 02:54 PM

just respect the throttle and respect the bike and you should be fine...everyone is different and if you feel like you have enough experience to jump on it then go you...as for me, i started off on a 125 dirtbike, then an r6, now a gsxr1k...the throttle power threw me off at first cause it's so touchy, but i respect it and i've been fine. but like i said, everyone has their own mind...some noobs will try wheelies right off the lot and that's the only stories you ever hear. you never hear stories about the noob who got on a 1k and was fiiiiine for years. lol.

Barn

11-24-2006, 04:16 PM

You know my GF is only 5'5" and 110lbs and she's ridden my 1000. This is her first year riding ... mind you when she got off it she told me that she doesn't understand how I can ride slow on it haha.

My advise is this. Take a good course that gives you as much riding time as possible on THEIR bike. Have a local bike shop that deals with sport bikes get that 1000 lowered and set the suspension softer. You're 5'3" 100lbs ... lets be real. While you're at it you should also get him to limit the throttle rotation to half. As you get better on the bike you can remove the limiter but that will at least limit your high end HP ... the only problem is that it doesn't limit the low end torque so just be gentle for the first little while. It's a 1000 and it can bite you if you do something stupid with the throttle. The rotation limit will really help.

Get a good helmet and full leathers and wear them ... I KNOW!

If you're smart about it and it sounds like you are then there's no reason to waste money on another bike. You'll have to get this done to it anyhow if you plan on keeping it. So there's no money lost.

daddio

11-25-2006, 03:13 AM

Just my 2 cents, I think jumping from a smaller motorcycle to a 1000 has serious risks as well. A heavy throttle hand on a big bike will get you into trouble!

gixxercrasher22

11-25-2006, 07:04 PM

A 1K as a first bike is perfect for a woman trying to make a statement. Go on witcha bad self!

Mr Small

11-27-2006, 01:50 PM

In the UK we are restricted in HP depending on what size/power of bike you can ride after you have passed your bike test and for how long that restriction lasts for.I used to think it was a pretty dumb idea but if it stops this sort of scenario from happening then I am all for it.There are plenty of "born again" bikers out there who find a 1K to much and sell them on pretty quick.To put a newbie on one,whatever height/weight is just madness.

Jimmy 2 Times

11-27-2006, 03:07 PM

stop being a pussy, you should have gotten a busa, now in 3 weeks you will get bored with the lack of power that the 1k has

SPL170db

11-27-2006, 04:06 PM

stop being a pussy, you should have gotten a busa, now in 3 weeks you will get bored with the lack of power that the 1k has

No way.

Why would you want 160hp in a 500 lb bike when you can have 160hp in a 400 lb bike. Way easier to hurt yourself with :punk

gixxercrasher22

11-27-2006, 04:51 PM

Exactly, what better way to show how much of a strong, independent woman you are.

GSeXieR

11-28-2006, 11:53 AM

Well I started on a 600 and everyone was talking alot of trash about that. I had never rode, I had always been passenger... I had 2 friends that really stood up and told me I could do it with no problem. I have respected it and so far I am still alive. And I am sure it helped that I took the MSF.
:cheers

I feel it's all in the person, but everyone can make a mistake, so stay on your toes if you follow through and "ENJOY the Ride".

sportbike solutions

11-28-2006, 12:37 PM

some noobs will try wheelies right off the lot and that's the only stories you ever hear. you never hear stories about the noob who got on a 1k and was fiiiiine for years. lol.

That's because there aren't any. Either the noob wasn't cautious enough, and got into trouble because of it, or the noob was too cautious, preventing them from ever laying down the solid foundation of riding skills necessary to deal with unexpected events. Starting out on a big bike, no matter WHO YOU ARE, magnifies the consequences of even the smallest mistakes, and increases the amount of time required to become a proficient rider. Either way - you're not fine. You've either ate shit and dealt with the consequences (which could be death, or serious injury), or you've stunted your growth as a rider (which sets you up for eating shit in the future).

How many of your riding heroes - the real fast guys you watch on TV every Sunday - how many of them do you think started out on 1000s? Answer: 0

What's the lesson here? Starting out on a smaller bike not only makes you safer, it makes you a better rider in a shorter period of time.

Ride.

11-28-2006, 02:05 PM

That's because there aren't any. Either the noob wasn't cautious enough, and got into trouble because of it, or the noob was too cautious, preventing them from ever laying down the solid foundation of riding skills necessary to deal with unexpected events. Starting out on a big bike, no matter WHO YOU ARE, magnifies the consequences of even the smallest mistakes, and increases the amount of time required to become a proficient rider. Either way - you're not fine. You've either ate shit and dealt with the consequences (which could be death, or serious injury), or you've stunted your growth as a rider (which sets you up for eating shit in the future).

How many of your riding heroes - the real fast guys you watch on TV every Sunday - how many of them do you think started out on 1000s? Answer: 0

What's the lesson here? Starting out on a smaller bike not only makes you safer, it makes you a better rider in a shorter period of time.
Mind if I copy and save that? It'll make a good standard answer to all of the same old "which bike?" noob threads. :thumbup

Other than the fact that a good amount of noobs aren't gettin a bike so that they can be one of the "proficient fast guys." They're getting it to be the "I have a cool bike" guy.

sportbike solutions

11-28-2006, 04:44 PM

Mind if I copy and save that? It'll make a good standard answer to all of the same old "which bike?" noob threads. :thumbup

Well Sure :D But you know as well as I do the same has been said by plenty of us. It's one of those experience things... you don't know the way things really are until you've been there and done that. Or you've died trying ;)

girlracer

11-28-2006, 09:08 PM

I have a gixxer 600 and i'm a female, though a little taller than you at 172 cm. I am by no means a muscly person, ie 55 kgs but i have tons of fun with this one and looking to update to a 1000 in the near future (when the bank account permits lol) I ride this bike for work every day and though IF I drop it I cannot pick it up by myself, (it's a 99 model weighing in at the 180kg mark ) however I found I got used to the weight and found it was far more a matter of balance than strength. I do agree definately with everyone saying a 1000 is too dangerous to start out on, my first road bike was a cbr250 and that had plenty enough power at the time, though now i have the gixxer i can't believe i actually rode it.

Gsxrisquickr

11-30-2006, 11:34 PM

You will get yourself killed or hurt by having a 1000 as your first bike. Sorry to say it but it is the truth. It is not a forgiving bike at all, one mistake and you will be in big trouble.

If you had been riding for years then I would say the 1000 would be fine if you can respect it and know how to ride it.

Better get a 600 first before the 1000 has you laid up....

Im 20 and my first bike is a K6 GSXR 1000.. their powerful but u just cant be dumb, ur not gonna die as soon as u get on a 1000.. :lol

Gixxasaurus

12-01-2006, 12:22 AM

There are people who are capable of riding a larger bike like the 1000 as a first bike, this is obvious because they are out there. There are people who have ridden for years on other bikes who will probably kill themselves on the 1000, I've met some personally. It really comes down to the individual. Could I recommend it? No. Can it be done? Yes. Your gut will tell you the answer- if your afraid of it, don't do it. Fear and overconfidence are your two worst enemies on two wheels.

crzy619

12-04-2006, 10:39 PM

i believe it has to scare you a lil. than you know your in your place.

daddio

12-05-2006, 04:59 AM

maybe the most accurate thing said on this thread!

SPL170db

12-05-2006, 01:25 PM

That's because there aren't any. Either the noob wasn't cautious enough, and got into trouble because of it, or the noob was too cautious, preventing them from ever laying down the solid foundation of riding skills necessary to deal with unexpected events. Starting out on a big bike, no matter WHO YOU ARE, magnifies the consequences of even the smallest mistakes, and increases the amount of time required to become a proficient rider. Either way - you're not fine. You've either ate shit and dealt with the consequences (which could be death, or serious injury), or you've stunted your growth as a rider (which sets you up for eating shit in the future).

How many of your riding heroes - the real fast guys you watch on TV every Sunday - how many of them do you think started out on 1000s? Answer: 0

What's the lesson here? Starting out on a smaller bike not only makes you safer, it makes you a better rider in a shorter period of time.

This is a great example. Either outcome is not good. I got a friend that bought an RC51, he says it's not his first bike, but I'm leary about that. He rides it carefully don't get me wrong. But he rides it so carefully that geriatric patients are honking at him on the road for going so slow. Can't develop good riding skills if you pertrified of the bike also.

BakerR600

12-05-2006, 02:47 PM

lol, I know people who have started on literbikes. I know a guy who went from a Kawi 500 to a K6 GSX-R1000. I started on a 600. Know one had died yet.

gsxr_45

12-10-2006, 02:00 PM

Try a sv 650 easy to ride and have fun on , we don't want you scaried away from bikes , there is a time and place for everything ,have fun ride with mature riders take some courses and don't drink and ride . get down with the program before you get in over your head . have fun

immortaldan

12-12-2006, 08:16 AM

Will Goes Boing

12-12-2006, 02:40 PM

as long as you dont wrap the throttle open you will be fine. a bike is a bike, all have same controls etc just power difference.

i had a 600 as a first bike and im a nut job on the road. after 2 weeks i was on a 150bhp R1..... lent to me by a friend so i took it easy.

as he told me, the throttle works both ways and its up to you to use it. whether its 70bhp or 170bhp its enough to do silly speeds on a bike.

ride it, take it easy and learn the bike.

Well the thing is.....

If you accidently grab a handful of throttle while going in a slow turn on a 600, you'll lurch forward a bit and be a little surprised.

If you accidently grab a handful of throttle while going in a slow turn on a 1000, your bike will fly out from under you and you'll be more than a little hurt.

CLovaGSXR

12-13-2006, 07:40 AM

sportbike solutions

12-13-2006, 11:30 AM

Wow... 3 whole days. That's alot. I'll be looking for her on pole next AMA season.

Some of you people just don't get it, do you? It isn't always a choice to 'use it'. It's a question of muscle memory, of countless experiences, of hours upon hours of seat time. And even then - as with most things - you never, ever stop learning. Learning to ride a motorcycle - and learning to ride it right - isn't something you can think your way through. Rationalization only gets you so far. There's no substitute for experience. And until you have a solid foundation of experience, you're going to hurt yourself on a big bike - either directly (ie getting fucked up), or indirectly (ie slowing your learning curve).

To ANYONE considering a 1000, of all bikes, as their first, keep in mind it's the posers and newbies alone who are the ones saying "you'll be fine on a 1000". They say it because they don't have enough experience to know any better. They don't know any better because they're either not interested in becoming better riders, haven't had the time to, or don't know how to. Because if they were interested in improving their abilities, and knew how to go about it, common sense would mandate that they start off on a smaller bike!

What these posers ARE interested in is being seen on the baddest bike off the showroom floor. And that they are... seen with squared off tires, seen with ridiculous riding posture, seen with lots of crash damage, and seen getting passed by the 250s & SVs on a regular basis. Sometimes seen dead or maimed. Rarely seen at the track (and when they are - it's in the slow group, holding everyone up).

I don't know about you... but 'fun' to me means striving to become a fast, skilled rider, on whatever bike I'm on. Fun does not mean being the guy that's so untalented that he's able to make Suzuki's flagship sportbike look slow. Fun is passing the poser on a 1K using a much smaller bike. Fun is not being the guy on the 1000 being passed.

Personally speaking, If I were looking to get involved in a new sport or activity (let's say skydiving, for instance, which I believe is statistically less dangerous that motorcycling)... I wouldn't ask the guy with 1 tandem jump under his belt for advice. I'd ask the instructor. Wouldn't you? Or would you trust your life and your enjoyment of the sport to the newbie who doesn't know any more than you do?

Well, I GUARANTEE that if you go to any racetrack, trackday, or riding school, and ask any seasoned racer, track vet, or instructor... they'll tell you that starting on a 1000 is not to your benefit, for a number of reasons. Shouldn't those be the people you'd want to listen to? The people that really care about your safety, that really want you to become better, faster... the people who really know what they're talking about.

Who are you going to listen to? The people with the experience to know what's really best for you, or the scumbag salesman at the dealership that couldn't give a shit whether you live or die, so long as he collects his commission? Are you going to listen to the majority of seasoned riders on this board that have the intelligence, experience, and common sense necessary to suggest the best course of action, or the minority of idiots that think being able to ride in a straight line makes them accomplished experts?

I'm usually pretty mellow - but it seriously pisses me off when screwballs suggest a 1000 as being a good beginners bike. They're either too fucking dumb to know any better - or so fucking careless and irresponsible that they're willing to jeapordize someone else's safety just to see their own dipshit comments in print. Either way, if they had any sense, they'd realize they don't know what the hell they're talking about, and keep their traps shut.

CLovaGSXR

12-13-2006, 12:03 PM

With all you just said.....You are missing it, imo...If this thread had been "getting a cbr600f2 for first bike", which to me, would be a great first bike for a female that just wants to ride. She could learn to ride it or start to, get frightened, twist the throttle all the way back, and smash into a wall....DEAD! Was it because she had a 600, 1000, 1300, 1400......NO. It was she was not skilled enough to know what to do in a situation that warranted avasive actions. The fact a bike has tons of power means nothing. A person can and has gradually learned to ride bikes far bigger. Therefore, if she wants to take on sportbiking and gets a 1000 does not mean she's facing death. We all face it whether you're Spies skilled or a squid. The fact that a persons tires are squared off does not mean they should have gotten the smaller bike...had they there would be no chicken strips...To me, that means the skill is not there.

Flounder

12-13-2006, 12:33 PM

Havent you all learned by now that accidents happen whether its a 600 or a 1000. Twist the throttle on either one at the wrong time and your DEAD. LEAN ANGLE... your talking about her getting a SV650 to learn on, Well 20 yrs ago when you were learning, that lil ole SV650 would be like todays 1000.. Do you honestly think that we have all become better riders through evolution. No, thats bullshit. Im not taking sides either way on this one and dont want to piss anyone off but facts are facts. If you make a bad choice at the wrong time on a moped, 250, 600, 750, 1000, 1300... YOUR DEAD..
My overall opinion is this.. It may be smarter (only because you may feel more comfortable) to learn on a smaller bike but if you do something stupid, your going to get hurt no matter how big or small your bike is. Smart riders will take it slow, learn their bike, and learn how to ride safe. Period.

Ive seen people who ride 1000's all day long on the track and street, not to mention that they have been riding for 20 years or more, get on a 600, and crash it because they though they were a good rider and could handle it. (Kinda shoots your theory of learning on a 600 out the window) Its all about making smart choices and being careful. Everyone has opinions and they are all going to differ. This thread has turned into nothing more then argument central.

sportbike solutions

12-13-2006, 02:02 PM

facts are facts

I'm really glad you brought up the subject of facts, Flounder. You're right. Facts ARE fact. Insurance companies use facts to determine their premiums. That's why sportbikes, in general, cost more to insure than other motorcycle styles. And that's why literbikes, in general, cost more to insure than sportbikes of smaller displacement. Because the facts are - more people hurt or kill themselves on them than any other bike. So yeah - facts are facts. Thanks for supporting my argument.

Didn't I read somewhere that you were a pilot? Let me ask you this... when you trained to get your license, was it in a Leer jet?

CLovaGSXR

12-13-2006, 03:01 PM

Insurance companies use facts to determine their premiums. That's why sportbikes, in general, cost more to insure than other motorcycle styles. And that's why literbikes, in general, cost more to insure than sportbikes of smaller displacement. Because the facts are - more people hurt or kill themselves on them than any other bike.

There are more factors involved than just "more people get killed with them". Every higher optioned model of anything causes higher premiums. V6 Mustang over V8....4cyl Maxima over V6. Mercedes S500/600/65. Trying to compare the way a person gets a pilots license is totally not the same. Any Joe Dirt can go buy a gixxer1000....Not everyone can go buy a plane and even if they could, you can't just get in it and take off. What else you got?

Flounder

12-13-2006, 03:07 PM

Lean Angle,, I understand what your saying but this is one argument that no-one has the correct answer to. We all know that no matter what is said, the average person is going to make their own decision. As far as insurance costs go. Insurance premiums are determined by actuarys that use the last 20years or so of data for trending analysis. the variables include, gender, age, location, engine size, make, model, year etc. There is not one input varaible that takes into account Experience.... the insurance premiums are higher on larger bikes becaues of what the engine is capable of doing but mostly due to the fact that it will cost more to fix them. (a new 600 will cost you 8K where as a new 1K will cost you 11K or more.) Repair costs are higher thus your premium is higher. no different then owning a honda civic compared to a vet. Which one is going to cost more to fix. And by the way, no i did not train in a leer jet but I was trained in aerobatic manuvers before I even had my license. and for reference. those nice new leer jets pretty much fly themselves.

Ride.

12-13-2006, 03:49 PM

You'll be fine with the 1000. Just cause you have 160hp under you does not mean you have to use it because you could go get a Ninja 250 and kill yourself just as fast. It's not the bike....It's the skill level that needs to be contested. The 1000 is about the same size as any 600 out there. For instance....My GF had no idea how to ride. I got her a K6 600 this year and now she awaiting delivery on her '07 gsxr-1000. Btw, I didn't just put her on it and let her go...She took our DMV bike 3 day bike course where she was taught. Way to soak up the useful information that's been shared. :rolleyes

Again, WHERE IN THE FUCK IS THE EXPERIENCE SUPPOSED TO COME FROM IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT 160HP UNDER CONTROL???
Yeah, a ninja 250 COULD kill you just as fast, but its also much easier to tame the power of that bike, which is a learned skill, ONE IN WHICH NOOBS DON'T HAVE. The will power alone isn't gonna keep a liter bike under control.
And what the hell does the physical size of a 1k vs. a 600 have to do with anything, especially when you're talking about an average sized adult?
News flash. They are pretty damn close to the exact same dimensions anyways, its whats in the heart of the beast that makes a difference.

Ride.

12-13-2006, 03:53 PM

Any Joe Dirt can go buy a gixxer1000....Not everyone can go buy a plane and even if they could, you can't just get in it and take off. What else you got?
What the fuck do you mean "what else you got?" How bout answering the fucking question before you ask for more? :hammer

Why the fuck do you suppose that even if any non-experienced pilot COULD go buy a leer jet that you can't just get in and take off? Perhaps CUZ THEY WON'T FUCKING KNOW HOW??
Just because a GSXR1000 is accessible to anyone, that makes it OK for anyone? :wtf

Ride.

12-13-2006, 04:01 PM

Just like you didn't learn how to fly in a leer jet, they don't use GSXR 1000s, or even 600s for the MSF course - Its not because they're not accessible to the general public. :rolleyes

sportbike solutions

12-13-2006, 04:10 PM

Do you two think you're experts in everything????? (Not you, AV! You were typing as I was! :cheers)

This may come as a shock, but I do have some experience with motorcycle repair costs :lol 1000s do not cost anymore to repair than any other bike, especially on modern bikes, where the only major component seperating the lot is the powerplant. Brand determines repair costs. CCs do not. I think this demonstrates how you have no problems arguing subjects you know nothing about.

I also have some experience working with riders of many levels, mostly on the track. Do you? Let me answer that for you...no, you don't. But how can I say this? Am I psychic? No - but anyone that did wouldn't make the statements you've made. Anyone that did would have seen the results of countless riders stunting their 'growth' by starting out on bikes that they had no business being on, considering their skill level.

At our trackdays - what do you think is the most common bike to see in the beginner group? That's right... the gixxer 1K. Followed closely by the 10R, CBR1K, and of course, the R1. I can't count the number of people I've seen spend month after month making little to no progress on their literbikes. When you see them in the pits, the look on their face isn't joy... it's fear. They have to psych themselves up just to get back on the bike. Contrary to what someone said earlier... fearing your bike isn't going to help anything.

I've also seen a number of these same riders switch to a lesser bike, either as a loaner, or a trade-in, and IMMEDIATELY start going faster than they ever did on their 1K, with more confidence, control, and enthusiasm. The difference is they're learning and improving... not just surviving.

As you two have pointed out - everyone's different. But I'll tell you this... each and every rider I'm referring to above thought they were different as well. Guess what - they weren't. And I have yet to see anyone start out on a 1K as their first motorcycle, and do what I'd consider "well". Never. Not once.

But maybe you two are special. Maybe you're prodigies. Maybe you have more 'natural ability' than any of the rest. If you think that - I believe you're fooling yourself - but even if you aren't, it's still irresponsible to suggest that other people hop on one as well. They can't all be special, can they?

Your comment about the Leer jet was telling. I should have never mentioned it - because honestly, as you cleverly pointed out, I don't know much about them. I don't know much about airplanes in general. In fact, I'm probably only embarassing myself by trying to talk airplanes with someone who certainly knows alot more about them than I do.

I'm done with this discussion, and done with this thread. I won't ever convince either one of you - though time just might. Point is - I was never trying to convince either one of you. I was hoping to convince someone reading this, considering a 1K, before they made what I KNOW to be the wrong decision. Fortunately, I'm not alone - for if you read back through the history of this thread, you'll realize that your opinion is one held by a significant minority of riders. I think I'll vote with the majority on this issue.

No hard feelings.

Flounder

12-13-2006, 08:34 PM

I never picked a side to start on a liter bike or not to. I have just been playing devil's advocate tyring to get people to realize the some of their arguments were not fact but only opinion. I would agree that you can probably become a much better rider by starting on a smaller bike but that doesnt mean someone will kill themselves just becuase they started on a liter. Thats the only thing I was trying to get at.

jimbo

12-14-2006, 03:49 AM

A 1K as a first bike is perfect for a woman trying to make a statement. Go on witcha bad self!
couldnt have been stated by a better person. GIXXER CRASHER LOL:rolleyes

jimbo

12-14-2006, 04:02 AM

U.S. Motorcycle Theft and Accident Rates

July 2, 2006 - Motorcycle Theft Report
Courtesy of Progressive Insurance
Progressive Insurance reports the following statistics, based on claims:

Most Likely to be Stolen: 1. Suzuki GSX-R1000; 2. Yamaha YZF-R; 3. Suzuki Hayabusa; 4. Honda CBR; 5. Kawasaki ZX-R.

Least Likely to be Stolen: 1. Suzuki Savage; 2. BMW R1200C; 3. Yamaha Virago; 4. Honda Nighthawk; 5. Triumph Bonneville.

Most Likely to be in a Crash: 1. Suzuki GSX-R1000; 2. Suzuki TLR; 3. Kawasaki ZX-R; 4. Honda CBR; 5. Yamaha YZF-R.

Least Likely to be in a Crash: 1. Yamaha Virago; 2. Honda Rebel; 3. Honda Nighthawk; 4. Suzuki Savage; 5. Harley-Davidson Tour Glide

speaking of facts, I thought I'd support the Angel that is trying to illistrate some common sense. remember folks, common sense is free of charge!!!

FutureToxPhD

12-14-2006, 09:21 AM

interesting report heh

CLovaGSXR

12-14-2006, 10:37 AM

Why the fuck do you suppose that even if any non-experienced pilot COULD go buy a leer jet that you can't just get in and take off? Perhaps CUZ THEY WON'T FUCKING KNOW HOW??

Nevermind the FAA or any law that governs against unidentified aircrafts in the air....:rolleyes I'm done with this thread....Good luck with your 1000, gixxergrl1000.

Ride.

12-14-2006, 11:27 AM

Nevermind the FAA or any law that governs against unidentified aircrafts in the air....:rolleyes I'm done with this thread....Good luck with your 1000, gixxergrl1000.
What the fuck does the law have to do with the pilot having the ability to fly the plane? :wtf

Need a bigger shovel?

CLovaGSXR

12-14-2006, 12:10 PM

What the fuck does the law have to do with the pilot having the ability to fly the plane? :wtf

Need a bigger shovel?

You are a fucking idiot..!!.I posted "Any Joe Dirt". Did I say anywhere anything about an experienced pilot..?..fuck NO. Moreover, if you are a PILOT that means you have some sort of EXPERIENCE in a plane some way or another...This thread is about a chic getting a 1000 as her FIRST bike....which means NO experience. Therefore, a person with no flying experience(Joe Dirt) can not just go buy a damn plane and get in it and take off whether he knows how or NOT, hence my last response. Yes, I do need a bigger shovel....To smack you cross your thick ass head!

Ride.

12-14-2006, 12:27 PM

You are a fucking idiot..!!.I posted "Any Joe Dirt". Did I say anywhere anything about an experienced pilot..?..fuck NO. Moreover, if you are a PILOT that means you have some sort of EXPERIENCE in a plane some way or another...This thread is about a chic getting a 1000 as her FIRST bike....which means NO experience. Therefore, a person with no flying experience(Joe Dirt) can not just go buy a damn plane and get in it and take off whether he knows how or NOT, hence my last response. Yes, I do need a bigger shovel....To smack you cross your thick ass head!
We both have the same understanding as to what a pilot is.
However you still haven't made the relationship between flying a leer jet as a noob, and riding a GSXR 1000 as a noob.

BTW: What do you call a person who is flying a plane?

Answer: The pilot.

Flounder

12-14-2006, 12:31 PM

How about the following:

Thread started on Oct 29 - Its now Dec 14
She stated on pg 2 that she has ridden other peoples bikes for years (granted not hers and nothing larger then a 650)
She has been riding dirt bikes for 26 years. so she knows what a motorcycle is - See pg 3
She stated on pg 3 that she would get something smaller to learn on (Oct 30) She also said that due to the number of people being asswholes on here that she wished she wouldnt have come here. (way to make someone feel welcome) THAT WAS HER LAST POST..
She made up her mind over a month ago so anything any of us have to say doesnt mean shit at this point....
Someone just please kill this thread.. its only getting members pissy with each other.

CLovaGSXR

12-14-2006, 12:34 PM

We both have the same understanding as to what a pilot is.
However you still haven't made the relationship between flying a leer jet as a noob, and riding a GSXR 1000 as a noob.

BTW: What do you call a person who is flying a plane?

Answer: The pilot.

Enjoy the rest of your day, Av_fan :cheers

racedgsxr600

12-15-2006, 03:52 AM

Enjoy the rest of your day, Av_fan, you were right im a dumbass to try and undermind you, I will go sit in my corner now :cheers

:cheers

CLovaGSXR

12-15-2006, 07:13 AM

:cheers

I see what you did there......Not the case at all...Just done arguing online...

Ride.

12-15-2006, 08:44 AM

Enjoy the rest of your day, Av_fan, you were right im a dumbass to try and undermind you, I will go sit in my corner now :cheers
:cheers
:cheers

gixxercrasher22

12-15-2006, 09:00 AM

Nevermind the FAA or any law that governs against unidentified aircrafts in the air....:rolleyes I'm done with this thread....Good luck with your 1000, gixxergrl1000.

It's called being a smartass. :rolleyes This is by that THE DUMBEST thread I've ever read in a long time. Why anyone would waste their time giving this dumbass question a decent response after 5 pages is beyond me.

TOEJAM

12-15-2006, 04:27 PM

Way to soak up the useful information that's been shared. :rolleyes

Again, WHERE IN THE FUCK IS THE EXPERIENCE SUPPOSED TO COME FROM IN ORDER TO KEEP THAT 160HP UNDER CONTROL???
Yeah, a ninja 250 COULD kill you just as fast, but its also much easier to tame the power of that bike, which is a learned skill, ONE IN WHICH NOOBS DON'T HAVE. The will power alone isn't gonna keep a liter bike under control.
And what the hell does the physical size of a 1k vs. a 600 have to do with anything, especially when you're talking about an average sized adult?
News flash. They are pretty damn close to the exact same dimensions anyways, its whats in the heart of the beast that makes a difference.

+1.

I couldnt have said it any better.

There is an '06 600 and an '06 1k sitting in my garage so i have some experience with both. I can honestly say that i couldn't have started on a 1k. The 1k is whole different animal. There is no way a noob can climb on a 1k with enough clutch/throttle control to be able to control it, much less ENJOY it.

He is right, the 600 and the 1k are almost identical in physical size. Go to suzuki.com and look at the specifications for each of them. Almost same length, height etc and only a 20lb weight difference.

NOW, i wouldnt trade my 1k for anything. I love it. I can throw it around just as good as the 600 and i am comfortable on it. I feel in total control, i can make it do anything i want it to. I love it NOW...but i couldn't have started out on it.

Asfaraslogic

12-18-2006, 02:25 AM

I have not actually read the thread, but if it has gone over 6 pages then I must assume its about the most important of issues. And well I felt I should add my opinion in as well. For I too LOVE bacon. All types of bacon, crispy bacon, soggy bacon, thick bacon, thin bacon, hard bacon, turkey bacon as well! Theres Canadian bacon ( not sure thats even real bacon, but its mmm mmmm good! ) Tofu bacon, and the now defunct sizzlean ( that was some good shizzle! ) all good. Bacon bits too. Bacon crisps, Bacon, lettuce, and tomatoes! Also good. In short I share your love of bikes and bacon.
Thank you for your time, now I think I will go wrap my wife up in some breakfast meat, and get to loving....

Bacon wrap, mmmm good!

CLovaGSXR

12-18-2006, 11:47 AM

jimbo

12-20-2006, 03:49 AM

WFO_GSXR

12-20-2006, 10:02 AM

statue

12-20-2006, 10:10 AM

wow this thread is still going hope you got all the info you need

Chillywater

12-20-2006, 11:29 AM

this thread needs to END IMMEDIATLEY!, don't ride a gixxer 1000 as a first bike....get something smaller to learn on, that should answer any question there might be....

Ride.

12-20-2006, 04:25 PM

it's all on throttle control and not writting checks your ass can't cash....

RIDE YOUR OWN RIDE AND THE 1000 will treat you fine...

DON'T be a squid Don't show off.. you'll be fine save the show off part for when you get a couple thousand under your belt by a couple i mean like 8 thousand miles or so
^^^^And don't do what this guy did. ^^^^
Please read the WHOLE thread before making stupid assumptions based on what you don't know.

jimbo

12-21-2006, 12:14 AM

By the time this thread ends, the woman who started this post will have graduated to a BUSA or:lol :lol :lol :lol have 5 AMA championships under her belt!!!!

jimbo

12-21-2006, 12:19 AM

:D :D :D Due to the overwhelming response and sucess of this thread, I think that next time I need some info on a technical problem, Ill post myself as a new female rider and post a photo of a nice looking blond as the rider!!!. I should have it back on the road in to time flat!!!

ripvanwinkle

12-21-2006, 01:13 AM

gastone

12-21-2006, 01:29 AM

I would suggest to buy already parts for your bike sister! You see this bikes when you ride them in the beginning you say - you know - , that's cool , that's easy i shall be careful with the throttle and everything are gonna be fine etc. and you have done some blocks near your house , and then you must go out on highway or twisty road with traffic and all this scrap ...Well i hope you will be alright and may the force and the holy yoshimura be with you but with a few words : This bikes are snakes and they bite ugly!! Buy something else!:confused:confused:confused

StoDy

12-21-2006, 04:13 AM

rofl

gsxr_45

12-24-2006, 06:51 PM

Back in the day we dreamed of 150 rwhp RR bikes , they where for world class pros , unobtainable ,all but for a few . now any body with some what of a brain can get on one , without a clue . why would you even want to ride one with no exp. WHY there's no point .when you started driving it was not a twin turbo wat ever or a tractor trailer come on . what causes most accidents on bikes is PANIC and with no exp. there's lots of it at different levels . for any one wanting to START riding bikes , burn up 100-200 gals of gas on a dirt bike then try the street and PLEASE NOT ON A 180 MPH bike come on . do the dirt ,get a sv then after thats boring go to maybe a bigger bike maybe .

Crimson49er

12-24-2006, 06:55 PM

is she dead yet? has she been riding her 1000? had to ask cuz of the age of this thread

R1Gal

01-11-2007, 03:59 PM

ripvanwinkle

01-11-2007, 04:05 PM

Chillywater

01-12-2007, 03:10 AM

:punk could not have been said better.
however she did say She has been riding dirt bikes for 26 years...
too bad everyone pissed her off

I wouldn't say everyone was trying to "piss her off"...just giving her very helpful advice....btw what part of NC are you in? im in NC too

jimbo

01-14-2007, 12:17 AM

I ride a Gix 1k. It's my 3rd one. 2 R1's before that. I'm 5.5, not a big deal. Just 'do it'. Lol

Did you wreck the first two:rolleyes :rolleyes :D

jimbo

01-14-2007, 12:19 AM

The thread lives again!!!!:punk :punk :punk

Gsx-R king

01-14-2007, 12:52 AM

Oh wow you'll be in for some shit

Shockbreaka

01-15-2007, 06:39 PM

Ask yourself these question:

Do you want to ride a bike that'll power wheelie down the front straight doing a buck 30?

If you wack the throttle 75% or more out of turn two at you local track runnin slicks, are you prepared to get spit off?

Does the 1000 sticker look so much cooler than the 600 or 750 sticker when your passing people arms length away full tucked?

If you answer no to any these then it's not the bike for you.
If you answered yes, well then you get the idea where you need to ride this bike. Enjoy smooth throttle application knowing that you can over run just about everyone else in a few seconds. otherwise a 600 is a more reasonable ride to learn, enjoy, and save the pucker stress on that behind.

Breaka

jokey051000

01-15-2007, 10:28 PM

first things first do you even have a motorcycle lisence if so did you take a rider training course if so then take the advanced course then proceed with extreme caution

mikeb12

01-17-2007, 07:56 AM

I ride a Gix 1k. It's my 3rd one. 2 R1's before that. I'm 5.5, not a big deal. Just 'do it'. Lol

you may 'operate' those bikes, but I doubt you really 'ride' them.

ripvanwinkle

01-18-2007, 09:30 AM

you may 'operate' those bikes, but I doubt you really 'ride' them.
maybe not fair, but maybe so.
reminds me of when i drove my friend's new 911 porsche a few years ago(996 the first water cooled one). he was shaking when we got back to his house. he had no idea what could happen in the happier rpm range, especially in the higher gears.

80-120 mph licky split!. around a turn, too.

i had to explain adrenaline to him and why he was shaking.
so, yes some folks have the tool, yet no idea...:wacko :scratch

GixxerVixxen

01-18-2007, 03:22 PM

you may 'operate' those bikes, but I doubt you really 'ride' them.

+1

judging by your (the person mikeb was responding to, not mikeb) attitude, you have no fucking clue what it really is your bike(s) can do.

plain and simple, starting on a 1k, especially a newer one, is a sure fire way to end up in one or more of these categories:
1) wrecked,
2) someone who has no idea how to really ride a bike
3) dead

pick your combination.

Fuzy_GSXR1000

01-26-2007, 10:10 PM

I can't believe i just read this ENTIRE thread:(

Chillywater

01-26-2007, 10:29 PM

I can't believe i just read this ENTIRE thread:(

damn. that's a lot of shit to read. I can't believe this thread is still going

Fuzy_GSXR1000

01-27-2007, 11:50 PM

damn. that's a lot of shit to read. I can't believe this thread is still going

I know but I was really intregued by this lil ditty My first street bike was a 1989 Honda CBR600f1 with 82 horsepower maybe 60 to the back wheel??? Thats what I learned how to ride "street" on way back in the day:) The next year or so they came out with that Captain America CBR900rr and I knew that it was too much for me back then....so I kept reading I hope she is doin ok on that 1k:)

jimbo

02-02-2007, 12:23 AM

I know but I was really intregued by this lil ditty My first street bike was a 1989 Honda CBR600f1 with 82 horsepower maybe 60 to the back wheel??? Thats what I learned how to ride "street" on way back in the day:) The next year or so they came out with that Captain America CBR900rr and I knew that it was too much for me back then....so I kept reading I hope she is doin ok on that 1k:)

Heck!!!, doing ok.....she probably has grand kids by now. Thats just how long this thread has been running!!!. Annudda:lol :lol 5 minutes or so, dis tread's gonna be a fixture "Goodfellas"

Fuzy_GSXR1000

02-02-2007, 07:22 PM

Heck!!!, doing ok.....she probably has grand kids by now. Thats just how long this thread has been running!!!. Annudda:lol :lol 5 minutes or so, dis tread's gonna be a fixture "Goodfellas"

lol "Do I amuse you??":D :punk

jimbo

02-03-2007, 03:11 AM

lol "Do I amuse you??":D :punk

funny...funny how??? you tink im here to F#@!$ (F#@!$G)G amuse you. funny how??:lol

USMCblackedoutgixxer

02-18-2007, 05:24 PM

[QUOTE=Barn]You know my GF is only 5'5" and 110lbs and she's ridden my 1000. This is her first year riding ... mind you when she got off it she told me that she doesn't understand how I can ride slow on it haha.

My advise is this. Take a good course that gives you as much riding time as possible on THEIR bike. Have a local bike shop that deals with sport bikes get that 1000 lowered and set the suspension softer. You're 5'3" 100lbs ... lets be real. While you're at it you should also get him to limit the throttle rotation to half. As you get better on the bike you can remove the limiter but that will at least limit your high end HP ... the only problem is that it doesn't limit the low end torque so just be gentle for the first little while. It's a 1000 and it can bite you if you do something stupid with the throttle. The rotation limit will really help.

Get a good helmet and full leathers and wear them ... I KNOW!

If you're smart about it and it sounds like you are then there's no reason to waste money on another bike. You'll have to get this done to it anyhow if you plan on keeping it. So there's no money lost.[/QUO

i agree with this 100% dont worry about what everybody else thinks just go with your instinct i my 1st bike was a gsxr1000 and i love it its just like any other bike you give a little throttle and a little gas at a time then soon you will be comfortable enough to give a little more. trust me just be safe and you will be good to go.:cool

GiXXXer001

02-22-2007, 02:11 AM

gangsta!!!!! but not the best choice for a 1st bike mama!

luvx77x8o4

02-22-2007, 12:42 PM

there are women that ride 1000's. most women i know are scared to ride or dont know how to ride it. but they sure look beautiful posing on one.

antonioguess

04-05-2008, 12:12 PM

It's my first bike just be easy on the gas your first 600 miles. After that you should be comfortable opening it up a little. If not there's always c mode.

gixxerangel30

04-06-2008, 03:56 AM

First I'm BORED!! Second..I cannot believe This THREAD IS ALIVE!! SOMEONE BROUGHT IT BACK...:banghead

I'm SMALL 5'3 118 and I LOVE MY 1000's NOT FOR EVERYONE THOUGH!!

I hate insomnia...thank God ..We have THIS PLACE!!!:cheers

Sale Creek GSXR750

04-06-2008, 06:27 AM

Excellent first bike...grip it and rip it :lol:

Count Porkula

04-06-2008, 07:06 AM

R1 = Garbage. LOL learn on that and pray to god you don't go fast and get a tank slap after 140mph+ from the garbage handling.

Absolutely right - and understated if anything. It is the worst handling bike I've ever ridden (and I grew up on a 1975 Tecumseh mini-bike). It may look pretty standing still but that's all its good for. Since I do all my own work, I also found the build quality of the R1 to be substandard - at least compared to the Gixxers I'm used to working on.

GSX1R

04-06-2008, 09:58 AM

It's my first bike just be easy on the gas your first 600 miles. After that you should be comfortable opening it up a little. If not there's always c mode.

It's my first bike too. I didn't realize how old this thread was until I read the whole thing. Just take it slow and make sure your ride within your limits. I'm taking a riders course as well and some experienced class as well.

My friend got a CBR600 for his first bike and after 3 weeks he was bored with it. He says he should have gotten a 1000. From reading several different forums and speaking to several riders, theres only two kinds of rides: ones that have been down and those that are going to go down. It's just a matter of time from what I understand.

Good advice, wear your protective gear leather particularly. Does anyone know what she ended up doing?

311gator

04-06-2008, 10:04 AM

If you have been around bikes and respect the bike you might be ok.... but it's still not a good idea. People say its a lot of power to weight ratio.... That bike will put you on your a$$ before you know it. whatever you chose ride fast... but safe

jgilbo17

04-06-2008, 08:46 PM

its all well and good that you wt to honor your friend but you gotta get something smaller and a 750 is no joke as far as performance. when i say smaller i mean something in the 250 to 500 range. dont sell the 1000 hold on to it just dont ride it. small bikes are realy cheap to get ive seen good 250s for 300 to 500 dollars.

Ride.

04-06-2008, 10:28 PM

Wait...all the new posts in this thread - from the last couple of days, are fakes, right?

tippeR

04-15-2008, 04:07 AM

my first bike was a gsxr 1000 and im 5' 7"...i think it was a great choice. it's much smoother than any 600 or 750 i've ridden. mine's a k6 and it has a shorter seat height than a k4/k5 750 so you should be ok... worst comes to worst use the one cheek sneak method :)

summerset

04-28-2008, 09:23 PM

If you lower the bike 4 inches and and keep it in six hundread mode you will be fine it handels great lowered. My wife is 5'4 and just bought a new 600 and rides it fine the bikes are within 20 lbs of each other. My fist bike K7 gsxr 1000.

loco

05-03-2008, 09:54 AM

loco

05-03-2008, 10:46 AM

Here's the perfect newb bike. Go get one.

http://www.suzukicycles.com/images/ProductImages/logo/500/DRZ400SMK8.jpg

And then go practice this stuff..
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Amazing-motorcycle-control-by-Japanese-cops-at-an_93571.htm

Soooooooo,
You can learn this stuff...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sdu734jO98&feature=related

And then you start really having fun on a bike, there is nothing in the world better than being able to manipluate a motorcycle.

And later on if you're really good, gems like this can happen, and there is no drug better than the feeling of the vid below, either on track or street.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzyMhEgKXyM

OR, you can continue to do this..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMbGOoXhL40

asskicker071

05-03-2008, 11:27 AM

good advice from everyone,i've been riding for 26 years and have had various bikes over the years, i've also had all the gsxr 1000 models since its introduction in 2001. it is a great bike but definately NOT FOR BEGINNERS. i suggest you take the advice to put it into storage,buy something smaller,less intimidating do a few superbike schools/trackdays see whether or not you like it and if you're really into the biking thing! From there on only experience is what will prevent you from getting hurt should you want to ride the 1000! Or you can buy something slow like an R1 or Zx 10(ha ha ha )

Oddball.lyn

05-03-2008, 07:52 PM

Geesxara

05-03-2008, 08:22 PM

The 250 would have made you far more capable of the 600's abilities had you done so, possibly not dropping the 600. It will take you far longer to gain the skills on the 600 than if you had stepped up bike by bike, just my 2cents

dragonryder

05-04-2008, 07:02 AM

A true noob on a 1000 is not a good choice. I am a female only 5' tall. I do ride a 2001 GSX-R 1000 but............I am now 50 been riding on the road since I was 20 on a bike. I also rode dirt bikes from the time I was 4, not that dirt and street are the same, they are not.
As prev. posted getting yourself killed is not going to honor your friend.
If you have never ridden a bike, best to start small and more forgiving.
Also wear your gear and by that I mean, helmet, jacket,pants,boots and gloves. Remember roderash is NOT sexy and it hurts like hell. No even the best gear will not protect you from stupid either self induced or provided compliments of someone else but it will help.
Also if you have someone with a smaller bike that you know and they don't mind you trying it go to an empty parking lot and practice.Take a MSF course it will really help understand a few things.
Anita

loco

05-04-2008, 01:09 PM

I figure that this would be the best place to post the question. I bought my GSXR600 before I took my MSF beginner course. People (mostly friends and family) have told me that I made mistake on buying such a big and heavy bike as my first bike. Though I disagree with them, I have gone on a couple of test ride and unfortunately dropped it once resulting in minor scratches that are fixable. I love my bike, but it is so damn heavy compared to my boyfriends R6. Should I have gone and bought a 250, but then I would have out grown in before the end of summer. What do you guys think?

I can't wait to go riding!

That's the thing, you never really outgrow a 250 or any smaller displacement bike. People always use this "term" but the reality is that thay have mastered the straight line acceleration of the 250 and want more.
I still have & always will keep my Trials 250, not because I've outgrown it (& never will) but it remains my tool to learn on. It's neverending, that's the thing. The term "I've mastered this trials thing" will never come out of my mouth, it's impossible. That little 250 still kicks my ass and I continue to learn and adapt.
NOTHING IS CARRIED OVER FROM THE 1k TO THE 250, BUT EVERYTHING IS FILTERED DOWN FROM THE 250 TO THE 1K.
Anyone who says "they have outgrown such & such" is chock full o shit, because in all probability they haven't.

I'm also a very good golfer and when I teach new people, they start on a set of small forged blades, to learn how to work the ball and nut it on a dime every time.
Then you can hit whatever you want.
Whenever I'm on the range and see someone talking shit, I hand em my old Cleveland TA1 2 iron, and the shit talk usually ends after they shank everything in sight.

The only reason I bought the 1K from a 600 was the torque, I was wringing it's neck, getting to much attention and a headache, so I switched.
But to say that I grew bored or mastered the 600 is utter crap, because I did'nt.

CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW AND SEE IF YOU THINK HE'S BORED WITH A SMALL BIKE.:lol

Oddball.lyn

05-04-2008, 05:01 PM

That's the thing, you never really outgrow a 250 or any smaller displacement bike. People always use this "term" but the reality is that thay have mastered the straight line acceleration of the 250 and want more.
I still have & always will keep my Trials 250, not because I've outgrown it (& never will) but it remains my tool to learn on. It's neverending, that's the thing. The term "I've mastered this trials thing" will never come out of my mouth, it's impossible. That little 250 still kicks my ass and I continue to learn and adapt.
NOTHING IS CARRIED OVER FROM THE 1k TO THE 250, BUT EVERYTHING IS FILTERED DOWN FROM THE 250 TO THE 1K.
Anyone who says "they have outgrown such & such" is chock full o shit, because in all probability they haven't.

I'm also a very good golfer and when I teach new people, they start on a set of small forged blades, to learn how to work the ball and nut it on a dime every time.
Then you can hit whatever you want.
Whenever I'm on the range and see someone talking shit, I hand em my old Cleveland TA1 2 iron, and the shit talk usually ends after they shank everything in sight.

The only reason I bought the 1K from a 600 was the torque, I was wringing it's neck, getting to much attention and a headache, so I switched.
But to say that I grew bored or mastered the 600 is utter crap, because I did'nt.

CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW AND SEE IF YOU THINK HE'S BORED WITH A SMALL BIKE.:lol

You know you're proably right, I won't out grow a 250. Let me rephrase then. By the end of summer I would want more out of my bike and hop up to the next power level. So I should have got a 250 to start, and then moved on to a 600. But I already have my 600 so there's no going back. Best I could do is borrow my friend's 250 and practice a bit. Thanks!

loco

05-04-2008, 05:07 PM

You know you're proably right, I won't out grow a 250. Let me rephrase then. By the end of summer I would want more out of my bike and hop up to the next power level. So I should have got a 250 to start, and then moved on to a 600. But I already have my 600 so there's no going back. Best I could do is borrow my friend's 250 and practice a bit. Thanks!

Great idea, whenever you can, grab that 250 and practice away. Try things out, experiment...:cheers

I still practice 1/2 day every month (with the 1K) on braking, accelerating and maneuvering.
I'm still finding ways to haul this beast down quicker, to accelerate quicker and to maneuver the bike quicker & more efficiently.
Because when the shit hits the fan I'm ready to roll, I know what the limits are of both myself & the machine and that has kept my ass alive on numerous occasions.
BTW: The bike is still far more capable than I am :crying

airman

10-02-2008, 01:41 PM

If the bike is paid off, and I were you. I would honor my friend by trading the bike in for a 600 or something in your frame size,(since you've said you've been riding for a while), and get on it in your friends name and go for a long ride. Your friend will be smiling down on you as you ride a bike that fits you and has you smiling the whole way, knowing that your riding now.....more often...becasue of him.

silverback1

10-02-2008, 02:13 PM

lady that will scare the life out of you, sell it buy a 600 or a sv 650

you will also learn more the 1000 will intimidate you

Vespa_Killer

10-02-2008, 02:37 PM

Ummmm.... the last time that girl was on this sit e was in 2006.

Time to let this one go.

BLiSsTeX

01-06-2009, 04:42 PM

You having a Gixxer 1000 for a first bike is the equivalent of your first mountain climb being Mount Everest.

I bought a 1000 for my 1st bike and I gotta tell you.... U live and Learn... I still have it 4 years later...... But it was an experience being that i NEVER rode a street bike b4... lets just say LOTS of trial and error.:scared

MikeHump

01-06-2009, 04:58 PM

holy dead thread batman

PJ240

01-06-2009, 05:05 PM

Hahah 06??

2007-GSXR1000

01-06-2009, 07:40 PM

I am a girl and have been riding for a little over 1 year. I own a gixxer 750, but have ridden my husbands 1000. I think it is a fine bike for girls as long as you respect it and stay out of the throttle.

rmcace750

01-06-2009, 07:49 PM

put the bike away. i only read that first post and that's all i have to say. i used to sell bikes and wouldn't even sell a 750 to someone who has this little experience.

mzgixxer750k5

01-06-2009, 10:52 PM

if you want to die, I would go with the 1000.

evoxkrazy

01-07-2009, 02:12 AM

I have recently aquired a GSXR 1000. It is my fist bike. I have not ridden it yet as I am a little thrown off by it's size. I am well aware of what an incredible bike it is and would love very much to ride it in the near future. I would not have bought a bike quite this size though, probably a 750 if anything. However I have inherited this bike and would love to honor my friend and put it to very good use rather than sell it and buy something smaller. I am also a female about 5'3 and would love to know if there are any women on here riding bikes this size.

Well being that you're 5'3 then you should more than likely lower it 1st because sounds like you would be on your tippy toes which would make it extremely hard for you to hold it up right.

As for all the other comments about how the bike will kill you, blah, blah, blah . . . . being realistic here, yes its an extremely powerful bike!, but if you can be sensitive with the throttle and a quick learner than you will be fine, just always respect the bike. I started out with a 250 and found it a complete waste of time! One thing i would strongly recommend before you take it for a spin is to take an msf riders course, or any other motorcycle training course around your area, so that you can get the basics down first.

Good luck

i never sleep

01-07-2009, 04:31 AM

Errr...this thread was started over two years ago. So she's either got used to riding the 1000 or she's dead.

Looking at her post count I fear the latter..

2005WRXSTi

01-08-2009, 05:09 PM

I have to add that I just completed the course in Fl for my endorsement and it was a three day beginners course that just taught the basics. I just got a GSXR 600, its a 2002 and I love it. I have so much to learn though, and I honestly can say, I cannot imagine riding a faster bike now at my level of experience.

+1 For riding courses, I haven't been riding in 10 years, and getting back in the saddle felt strange...NO IT'S NOT LIKE RIDING A BIKE! Pffffft. Don't get pwnd by the bike, brush up on the basics, ride defensively and take it easy, no WOT (wide open throttle).

rootkit

01-08-2009, 05:35 PM

Errr...this thread was started over two years ago. So she's either got used to riding the 1000 or she's dead.

Looking at her post count I fear the latter..

:lol :lol

queefeater

01-08-2009, 05:41 PM

Here's my .02. I'm new to the street bike scene and I've been looking at what I want. I've grown up with ATVs and riding Dirtbikes for years. 125 cc. I am about to get a 600. My buddy just bought an R1 and I have ridden it a few times. I will never, ever, ever need a 1000 bike...never. I dont even feel comf ridin it. It is way too much for what I need. I feel a whole lot more comfortable on the 600. If you need to ride it, stay in the neighborhood and go slow. slow = under 20

Keep it safe

Gunna go ride my kids razor now :burnout

Dream of Flight

01-08-2009, 08:46 PM

Errr...this thread was started over two years ago. So she's either got used to riding the 1000 or she's dead.

Looking at her post count I fear the latter..

8 posts, u called it :lol

last post 29OCT06

seriously, i hope not :crying

AlbinoBlack303

01-21-2009, 02:06 PM

Personally I think it's fine to start off on a 1000. If you can handle the sheer size and weight of a 1000 there's nothing that says u have to blow the balls off of it and run it like u stole it. Take it easy on the throttle until you're comfortable and gradually wean yourself into using more of it's power.

Just because u have a thousand cc's doesn't mean u have to ride your bike like an asshole. If u can handle how big it is u won't notice a difference between a 6/750/1k until u crack back on that throttle. Just take it easy and you'll be fine.

AlbinoBlack303

01-21-2009, 02:07 PM

lol...

<--- also just noticed how old this shit is... well whatever, there's my 2 cents.

AndrewM

01-21-2009, 03:41 PM

GSXR1000's make GREAT starter bikes. So do cbr1000RR's, R1's and ZX10's.... but only if you ride them in a tshirt and shorts

Only pussies start on anything less

/thread

BlackedOut

01-21-2009, 09:19 PM

I thought the ZX14R was a beginner bike? :dunno

Gixer_Girl

01-22-2009, 03:19 PM

Agree with everyone on here. I've got a K7 750 and that's my 3rd bike, I do track days, am 5ft 9 and a former body builder and I'm still not ready for a Thou. You've got to learn to walk before you can run. Learn on a crappy old bike, get used to everything they don't tell you in your DAS, stuff you can only learn by experience then move up gradually to the Thou bike. Forget testosterone, forget competing with anyone, just keep yourself safe and stay Shiny Side Up! Believe me dropping or coming off a crap old bike will hurt your pride and your pocket much less than doing that with this GSXR 1000. Best of luck, let us know how you get on.

lucki_supster

01-23-2009, 11:33 AM

I guess it depends who is teaching you to ride. I learned on a 1000. I love it. I have a great instructor though. Just respect the bike and the power it has and you'll be fine.

This is to whoever is considering learning on 1000 since this post is super old, LMAO.

tx3steiny

02-01-2009, 07:11 AM

My first bike (which I still have) is a GSXR1000K7. I love it to bits.

It's all about self control. I was only 22 when I got it, but I understood that it needed allot of respect else it would throw me into a coffin. I've learnt the hard way that you have to respect your vehicles (I was a stupid over confident 18 year old with a quick turbo car that I ended up wrecking).

I've now had it for nearly 2 years and not looking at replacing it for many more years. This was the main reason I went straight to the 1000, I wanted something that I would keep for a long time.

Respect the bike and it wont make a wrong step for you, push it and suffer the consequence's.

emdivine

02-01-2009, 09:42 AM

It is not advised but can be done. The bike would need to be lowerd and you would have to take the beginner riding course to learn safety and how to ride from scratch.
As far as the 1000 ccs behind the throttle there is nothing like it. There is no limit to what that bike could do with you on it, ever, period.
I believe There are people that could ride any bike given to them because they are conservative in life and would be very content with just a small and smooth throttle twist for a pieceful ride always. They can feel the power and have a limit. They dont ever feel the need to push and push to see what more the bike can do. it is almost like they are content with a certain slow cautious speed and ecceleration and would be scared to ever go more. If this is you. then you will most likely be o.k. on any bike that you can hold up provide you take a course. You would have to be extra careful. If you are not this type or person than you must not get that bike. I would asume that most of us on this site are not. That is not to say that we are not smart and safe but most would not do well on a 1000 for a first bike.