Hi I have been riding for 3 yrs i had a 250 for 2 yrs then went to a 600 for a yr now and i want a bigger and better bike, I want a 1000 but what do you all think should i just go to a 750 or stay on the 600 for another yr?

I just use the bike to stunt and drive around with friends really thats about it!

I do go to the track, twisty and stuff like that also but this 600 is a carb bike and i cant get it turned right so i want a fi bike that is why i want a new one and if you go from a 600 to a 1000 its only 2k more so i say why not but let me know your thought on this, Thanks, AL

if u feel like you have enough riding experiance then go for it...just remeber 600 and liter bikes are worlds apart...thats my opinion atleast...the power dif. is scary..and you will have to get used to the handling...if u do get a liter then just take it slow in the beginning...learn the bike....

It is quite a jump in the displacement, you won't be disappointed by the increase of power. But if you are looking for a step up, you might want to consider a 750. 1000's are alright for stunting, but they are an overkill. 750s can be modded so that you can attain decent power without killing yourself with a fist full of throttle. That is my.02.... either way you decide to go, becareful, and give yourself a chance to become familar with the bike before you do anything too drastic.

Good luck

Bigger does not mean better. Don't get your mind set on "a 1000 is better because its bigger, and the "little" 600 just isn't good enough anymore."
A 750 is the perfect bike. This is my 2nd one. I "upgraded" to newer not "bigger".

hey thanks i think i should go with the 750 also but i just wanted to ask as the 1000 are cheaper then the 750 rate now lol

I know most people stunt and i guess are a better bike around on a 750 so that would prolly be my choice as i am only 140lb rider 5'4" So i am pretty small to as i think the 1000 would just spin out on me alot you know well i will keep looking, Thanks

For the street I would definitely want a 1K. I don't think I will ever ever ride a 1K on the track. 2 scary.

My K5 was my first sportsbike ever, never owned a 600 or 750 or 250 etc... I spilled once at angeles crest and that was due to a car coming at me and me grabbing the brakes and doing an endo that landed on the worng side of the bike, so it was gonna happen with almost any modern sportbike. I ride the track about once a month, ride around the streets and canyons about once every other day. The only thing i dont do is stunting, I cant even wheelie the bike. Except that I am very happy with my bike and my purchase. Eventhough everybody said dont buy a 1000 as first bike, ( and belive me i know they are right) I still went and bought it.

As my tire and suspension guys says though, that I have a natural, very smooth throtlle control. I paid so much atention to my throttle wrist, I worked so hard on it to be smooth and open it up only as much as the rear tire can handle, now I cant even get my self to do power wheelies on my k5.... Oh well, its not my priority anyways....

Go for what you feel like, there is no school or graduating to 1000 cc. I had only cruiser experience and belived i was ready for a liter class super bike and i was right.. If you feel ready then its time my friend...

PS: for stunting you might be better off with a -1/+2 geared 750.

go for it, not much of a big difference other then full throttle cannot be used in 1st gear and better top end acceleration. The weight increase is minimal.

edit- significantly better top end acceleration....

I am going with the 750 this week! Thanks for your all help!!!

id rather ride a 600 comfortably than be scared shitless on a 1000. riding is all about pleasure, and i dont get much from holding on for dear life.

id rather ride a 600 comfortably than be scared shitless on a 1000. riding is all about pleasure, and i dont get much from holding on for dear life.
i ride a 1k, and i ride pretty scared, but that is regardless of being on a litre bike. i'd feel the same "fear" on a 600 or 250, for that matter. it's more of a "respect" that every cage and road out there wants me dead. it's not the size of a bike that keeps me safe, it's what i got inside my helmet :punk

Yeah a 1000 on the street is not about the fact you'll never use it to it's potential cause I don't know anyone that is using a 600 to it's potential on the street.

Just having the power is fun and make riding a little easier with more HP and torque.

Hey Kevin, I am planning on getting two 1ks this winter a K7 for the street and either a new K6 from F&S in Dayton, or a buddies K6 for racing A SSTk and A SBK.

I know the 1k will scary as hell at Nelson.....

1000 all the way. had a 2001 600 track bike for a while, and stepping up to the 1000 was the best thing i ever did. that power is an addiction. and learning how to use it is a whole lot of fun.

go for it, not much of a big difference other then full throttle cannot be used in 1st gear and better top end acceleration. The weight increase is minimal.

edit- significantly better top end acceleration....

Have you ever ridden a liter bike especially and 05 or newer 1k. your statement is completely wrong. If I go from my 750 to a friends 600 I feel like im strangling the damn thing to get it to go. When I go from my 750 to a buddies 1k, that thing is like a 1500 pound bull on roids trying to throw my arse off. My personal opionion is that all the bikes will kill you just as fast but if your thinking of a 750, for the money difference, your better off to get a 1K. And yes I have a 750 but I will have a new 1k in the spring.

Have you ever ridden a liter bike especially and 05 or newer 1k. your statement is completely wrong. If I go from my 750 to a friends 600 I feel like im strangling the damn thing to get it to go. When I go from my 750 to a buddies 1k, that thing is like a 1500 pound bull on roids trying to throw my arse off. My personal opionion is that all the bikes will kill you just as fast but if your thinking of a 750, for the money difference, your better off to get a 1K. And yes I have a 750 but I will have a new 1k in the spring.

ahh yes, I have ridden my buddies GSXR1000 2006. The very first time I rode it I was wrapped out first gear. Modulating the throttle for max accel without picking up the front wheel is very easy and when it does come up, it's pretty progressive. You can feel the weight increase as well, but it's not a huge difference or anything.

I don't know why everyone is so scared of liter bikes. Shit, they're easier to ride than smaller bikes. More torque. Even for newbies. All you have to do is let the clutch out slowly to start. That's how I first learned to ride. On all the 600's I've ever rode (excluding the 636) you MUST give it a little gas when you let the clutch out. Bigger bikes are much better for the street; you don't have to change gears near as often, and you don't feel like you're raping the piss out of your bike when you do want to go fast. Pretty much any gear just give it a twist and you'll be satisfied with the results. Before I got my '05 750 I thought my friends 636 was fast. I rode it again the other day and it was like comparing a Camaro to a Civic. I'd roll on full-throttle in 2nd gear and it felt like minutes before that thing started really taking off (10,000+rpm). Even 6th gear roll-ons on my 750 are more fun. Get a big bike, even a liter, learn some throttle control, and don't be a bitch about it. :cheers

I would borrow a 750 and a 1000 an determine which one fits your needs the best. The 750 has awesome power. If you do a lot of 2 up riding, you might want the 1000. I have a 600 and it's plenty of power for me. Maybe next step would be the 750.

It really doesnt matter which bike you start on, wether you are talking a 600, 750, or 1000, hell even a Hayabusa, they all do 150 MPH at least, I personally dont think it matters, its all about HOW you ride. If you ride stupid you could kill yourself on a dirt bike, if you ride smart you can ride a Busa with no other experience

The whole "Start on a 600 cause its smaller" argument really doesnt hold water, they are ALL race bikes, they are all designed to do two things, handle well, and do it very fast.

Just my 2 cents.

I don't know why everyone is so scared of liter bikes. Shit, they're easier to ride than smaller bikes. More torque. Even for newbies. All you have to do is let the clutch out slowly to start. That's how I first learned to ride. On all the 600's I've ever rode (excluding the 636) you MUST give it a little gas when you let the clutch out. Bigger bikes are much better for the street; you don't have to change gears near as often, and you don't feel like you're raping the piss out of your bike when you do want to go fast. Pretty much any gear just give it a twist and you'll be satisfied with the results. Before I got my '05 750 I thought my friends 636 was fast. I rode it again the other day and it was like comparing a Camaro to a Civic. I'd roll on full-throttle in 2nd gear and it felt like minutes before that thing started really taking off (10,000+rpm). Even 6th gear roll-ons on my 750 are more fun. Get a big bike, even a liter, learn some throttle control, and don't be a bitch about it. :cheers

very true, on my 600 on have to rev it too like 7,000 rpm in first and second to get going with moderate speed. On the highway, traveling @ 80 mph, my shit is spinning at like 7,500 rpm. Not very good for gas mileage...

on a 1 liter, I rev it less in every gear, look down at the speedo and suprise myself everytime. Even with short shifting, I get up to 60+ mph in no time. And it keeps the engine down low in the rpms, which is better for engine life and gas mileage, especially on the highway...

Honestly, if you feel as if you're ready to step up and skip past 3/4 literbike (750), then go for it. I actually made the same transition. I was going to get a 750, but since it was only a G off of the price of a brand new 1K, i decided to jump to the 1K. To stress a few points that have already been mentioned earlier, a 600/750 is much more forgiving in comparison to a 1K. The 1K wakes up a lot sooner than a 600/750. The amount of power and thrust that you get from a 600/750 at around 9-10,000 rpm, is the equivalent of what a 1K might generate from 5-7,000rpm because the all that mid-range power that they are known for. Next, the handling characteristics between a 600/750 and a 1K are a bit different. No major difference between the 600/750 since they are only 5 pounds apart. But with the 1K, you might have an extra 20-25lbs, so intial turn-in effort might take a lil more effort. It didn't take long for me to get use to these differences, just had to put in enough time and work to learn the bike. So again, if you're ready, go for it! Let me just stress one thing should you decide to make the leap, THROTTLE CONTROL.

I was talking to my sales guy when i bought my bike.

I was going to buy a 06 1000cc, but he told me bout a bunch of people who ended up bringing them back, because sure they are awesome...but do you need a 1000cc? He said that tons of guys he has known that went to 1000cc ended up going to a 750 because it was just more power then they needed. They liked being able to dog out their 600 in every gear like it was nothing (experienced riders) and when they went to a 1000cc...even after a year they just decided to drop down.

So I ended up going in between....750 :D

Don't base your current, carbed, bikes speed off a new 600cc. My 750 will bust balls on my buddies 1995 cbr900rr carbed bike....that's stock. He has 124HP with 65ftlb torque on a 405lb bike. I think my HP is somewhere around 140 with 55fl/lb torque (if i remember right) on a 359lb bike......sooo. Weight makes a big difference too. My friend on his 06 600gixxer raised my buddy on his friends (his busa's engine is being built right now) 06 750. the 600 guy weights about 160....the other weighs about 300lbs....the 600 beat him.

I believe that it all depends on what you really do. Being you say you stunt and just ride with your boys then I would say don't go any higher then a 750 because the liter bike will be overkill (not for your riding abilities, but just for what you do). It just depends on what you do. I do have friends that went from 600's to busa
s because they are all about going in a straight line as fast as possible. They are slammed, stretched and HAUL ASS! there is no stunting being done on those bikes....

if you had the option to select your dick size, would you get a medium because you might hurt someone? get the liter and stop wimpering. yes it's a beast, get over it!

sorry i had a 600, then a 929 - got rid of that pile of junk for a new 750 NOT a 1k, then got a 600 for the track.

if i get a 1k, it'll be something like a ducati with a freakin loud dry clutch, aprilia, or a mv - that'll be the only liter bike i own. something pretty and sexy to go to work and weekend crusies on if i'm not at the track. (shoot might even take that thing on the track)

very true, on my 600 on have to rev it too like 7,000 rpm in first and second to get going with moderate speed. On the highway, traveling @ 80 mph, my shit is spinning at like 7,500 rpm. Not very good for gas mileage...

on a 1 liter, I rev it less in every gear, look down at the speedo and suprise myself everytime. Even with short shifting, I get up to 60+ mph in no time. And it keeps the engine down low in the rpms, which is better for engine life and gas mileage, especially on the highway...

Gas mileage ain't going to be that much different, as more then likely you are using pretty close to the same amount of fuel to turn a liter bike at 4k rpm as a 600 at 7.5K rpm. Size of the cylinders.


And there is a difference between starting off on 600s and 1000s even 750s. It generally isn't the rider forgetting what bike they are on and opening the throttle straight up and down, it is what they do when that car comes out, or they are accelerating and a car changes lane or something is in the road. It is when something does go wrong that a 600 is more forgiving then a 100. And I agree with some that a lot of riders would be better starting on pre 2000 600s and not the new ones. But at least with the 600 if you do make a mistake under 8k rpm with the gas a 600 may allow you enough error to save it. If you make the same mistake on a 1k around 6k rpm for get it.

Also look into insurance- big difference there too.

I went from a 600 to a 1k within a years time (although I've had a few more years of experience riding before). Power and torque can be noticed from the very beginning. I made my choice because I figured if I went with the 750 I would just mod it to death just so it could keep up with some of my friend's 1k's.

Like a wise GDC member told me...don't be scared of it...just respect it and you will be fine.

id rather ride a 600 comfortably than be scared shitless on a 1000. riding is all about pleasure, and i dont get much from holding on for dear life.

thats actually a really good point, plus if your at track days youll be pulling the wheel up non stop. go with a 750, mod it and youll be content, even not modded

I know a few tracks where the front doesn't always come up. That is part of learning to ride a 1000 fast on the track is how much throttle to get away with. If you are getting wheelies all the time then you are not getting on the gas early enough and smooth enough. If you get the bike upright and time the throttle so the suspension lifts the front then yeah wheelies will happen even on a 600, but if you roll the gas on from apex on with a lot of tracks having 3rd gear corners it isn't that hard to keep the front down and maximize your drive.

I've had my 600 for a month and a half right now and I'm already planning to upgrade to a 1000 by the end of this year.

I've had a friend who from the start kept encouraging me to get a liter bike because him and his friends all started on it. I don't regret what I did because I believe in taking things one step at a time. But I've heard so many people saying how overwhelming a gsxr600 would be for a first time rider and I had this notion that it's "so hard to ride". But once I jumped on the bike within 5 minutes I was riding it back home.

You guys have to take into account what kinda riding he'll be doing. If it's track a 600 or 750 would be nice. But if he's doing primarily street riding where he doesn't go WOT all the time the torque of the liter bike might be better.

I'm new here so excuse me if my response is out of line. First off I ride a highly modified busa with a weight reduction of some +60 reduction over stock, +1 bones in the rear, aprox 178 rwhp, etc... I also just purchased a 06 750. I've put over 18,000 miles on the Busa over the last 2 years, however only about 100 miles on the 750 so my comments are somewhat limited.

I purchased the 750 for my girlfriend of 3 years as a starter bike. Reason being is it fit her much better then the older F2,F3's, gsxr 600/750, etc. When I made this decision I kept a few important things in mind. First, it doesn't matter if she is on my Modified Busa, or a moped...throttle control is so very important.

Secondl, the new 600/ 750's make their torque in the higher range of the RPM band compared to the older bike, so I thought the newer bikes would be more forgiving below 8K. I guess I think its better to have a few extra thousand rpm's as a buffer zone for a newer rider.

Ok, Im very impressed with the New 750 - Actually I think it's the perfect 2nd choice to my Busa. Comfortable and inspires confidence, but both Bikes are so much more then what is needed for the road.

If my Busa would have fit my girlfriend properly, I would have purchased her one and started to mod it once funds were available. I got her the 750 because it's what fit her best. Power wasn't the issue here, as Busa or 750 has more then anyone needs on the street - it comes down to self control, throttle control, self confidence, maturity level, and comfort with the bike. Most guys on a 600 can't even ride the bike properly, and are just amazed when my Busa smacks em around on the twisty roads. I keep hearing, wait until I get a 1000 - yah, umm....it comes down to rider, as the Newer 's600 will smack my Busa around in the twisties with a skilled, confident, and comfortable rider.

Work on basic skills for a few years and I think most people would find they are much faster on a smaller, lighter bike. Why hamper your learning ability with tire spins out of a corner, extra fatiguing weight to toss around from a larger displacement bike. One way I put it is my Busa is awesome but once I commit to a tight turn, I'm all in and must "Stick-it" where the 750 allows some wiggle room for error, which is much more confidence inspiring. Once you get scared, or over ride your abilities your plagued with that little fear bug in the back of your head which can take some time to conquer. Anyhow, Im getting chatty here...so I will just say good luck and buy what makes you happy, and be real to yourself about why your buying it.

Just curious how all worked out with her on the 750? Cause the 600 would have fit just the same as the 750 since they are th same bike.

Not putting down, just curious as to why you didn't give the 600 a try as her first bike?

Just curious how all worked out with her on the 750? Cause the 600 would have fit just the same as the 750 since they are th same bike.

Not putting down, just curious as to why you didn't give the 600 a try as her first bike?

OK, well the main reason was price. My pal owns a Suzuki shop and got a great deal on the 750. Out the door for 8K....so it was a major factor. Secondly, there is only 4 lbs difference in weight so I didnt think the weight difference was a major factor.

The next thing is the torque. The 750 has more torque and for our long Hwy rides, I thought the bigger bore 750 would be a little more smooth then the 600...which I feel is a little buzzy, if that makes any sense. Also, the 600 is an awesome bike but requires a little more shifting due to less torque, where the 750 requires a little less shiting, just one more thing not to worry about while learning.

She has some previous riding on dirtbikes, but some what limited. MSF beginner course is a must before she rides the bike. Since there is snow on the ground, all she can do right now is read a bunch of material, and work on getting a feel for the clutch/ friction zone in the garage. The 750 will make a nice little track bike for me on the weekends. I guess either choice would have been a great choice, but I just happened to get a better deal on a K6 750.

Nice price, I hate you!!!!

I probably should have gotten the k6 Maroon 750 for my street bike (my favorite looking bike right now) instead of my K6 1000. Once I get the 1000 painted the way I want it should be good though.
It has been so long since I have ridden a 600 in the twisties (since 97 on first bike), but love it on the track, that not sure how they feels on the street.

I too like the 1ks for the street as you can ride lazy and still feel the power.

I rode my dad's TL1000s at a trackday at Mid OH and was surprised how much more power I had off the corners then my 600 even with lower Corner exit speed.

I have had a 600 for a while, then didn't ride for a year or so then got a 1000, then bought 2 more 600s because the 1000 (05 R1) had minimal power below 9000rpm then I got the K7 1k and the power is so smooth on it that it is super easy to control, plus the 1000 has 3 modes so if you feel you don't need so much power you put it in a different mode. Just my opinion.

For the street I would definitely want a 1K. I don't think I will ever ever ride a 1K on the track. 2 scary.
depends: racing or just track days?

full throttle cannot be used in 1st gear
whatcha talking about?
use full throttle until the front pops up, then ease off some.
when it comes down, shift and do it over again:punk

I have had a 600 for a while, then didn't ride for a year or so then got a 1000, then bought 2 more 600s because the 1000 (05 R1) had minimal power below 9000rpm then I got the K7 1k and the power is so smooth on it that it is super easy to control, plus the 1000 has 3 modes so if you feel you don't need so much power you put it in a different mode. Just my opinion.
please refrain from posting when on drugs.
if this is the way you normally think and communicate , then you should not own a gixxer! something is really wrong:hammer