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: Should I be dragging knee?


rheude
07-30-2006, 12:28 PM
I saw a post on this site a couple of days ago that stated "if you are leaning far enough to have no chicken strips left then you should be dragging knee." I have no strips on my rear with a little left on the front. My question is this, am I not hanging off the bike enough. I have the one butt cheek off thing going for me right now. Should I try to slide off a little bit more? I'm in no hurry to drag knee but would like to know if I need to get off the bike a little more in order to drag the knee to judge how much further I can lean. Thanks.

j-mal
07-30-2006, 09:56 PM
To me it sounds like the answer is no and for two reasons. One you don't need to try on the streets and two that just means you aren't hanging off the bike right. On the street where you place your upper body is probably more important that trying to hang off, but start with your head, try putting your head where your rearview mirror is (the one on the inside of the turn). Don't sit all the way up on the tank there should be a little room between your junk and the take. Once you get used to looking through the turn by leading with your head start using your inside shoulder as a sight, make sure your inside elbow is pointing down (this will cause your inside arm to have more of a bend while making your outside arm an anchor point. I'm no pro but I'm sure there will be some on this sight that can go into this much further than I am.

TWISTED METAL
07-30-2006, 10:06 PM
u kinda sound like ur triin to hang ur butt off more just to drag....remember ur back should be straight to the bike when hangin off...so ur shoulder and back are straight when seen from behind....worry about ur body position before u worry about draggin knee....it gets old neway, i usually pick my knee up a bit to save my sliders cuz they aren't cheap....good job on them chicken strips bro...keep ur tires round!!

rheude
07-31-2006, 11:29 AM
Thanks, appreciate the replies

Barn
08-02-2006, 12:54 PM
Yep I agree. If you have no strips and one cheek off the seat and you're still not down with the knee then it's either your upper body isn't in the right position or you're just not hanging your knee out far enough. What are you riding and how tall are you? What tires are you on? Are you using stock rear sets? Is the bike at stock ride height? All these play a factor.

You should be pivoting on the ball of your foot with 80-90% of your weight on the inside peg. When you put your knee out make sure your heal is hitting the kick plate and rotate. If you're still not touching you should be damn close.

disclaimer ... don't do it on the street!

Barn

turbo.gsxr
08-03-2006, 05:58 AM
I usually wear jeans so I don't put my knee down, but my exhaust scrapes on the ground so I know when I'm down enough.:punk

mikeb12
08-03-2006, 12:42 PM
sure draggin your knee is fun, but not really safe on the street. find a big parking lot to figure it out.

how to drag your knee. half a butt cheek off. ball of your foot on the peg. open your hips to the turn (if turning left, move your left hip back, right hip forward). this will ease the hip joint and let you move your leg laterally. this also makes the bike steer very lightly. turn in and let the knee touch down. don't try to turn, then stick out your knee and 'find' the ground, let the ground find your knee.

if you hang off far enough, you can touch your knee down with very little lean angle. the trick is to slide it without hanging off or doing the sticky outy thing. good luck but be ready for a scare.

j-mal
08-07-2006, 12:19 AM
sure draggin your knee is fun, but not really safe on the street. find a big parking lot to figure it out.

how to drag your knee. half a butt cheek off. ball of your foot on the peg. open your hips to the turn (if turning left, move your left hip back, right hip forward). this will ease the hip joint and let you move your leg laterally. this also makes the bike steer very lightly. turn in and let the knee touch down. don't try to turn, then stick out your knee and 'find' the ground, let the ground find your knee.

if you hang off far enough, you can touch your knee down with very little lean angle. the trick is to slide it without hanging off or doing the sticky outy thing. good luck but be ready for a scare.

your advice about the hip movement helped me too great tip i never thought about.

OutOfMyDepth
08-10-2006, 02:06 AM
I ride with a mate who has the same bike as me but is about a foot taller than me. At the same speed he's dragging his knee, while im not even bothering to lean off much because we arent going that fast.

Lots of variables involved. Ive had to become concious of ensuring my upper body is far enough forward and off the side of the bike to match how far over my arse is. While id like to scrape a knee im more interested in improving corner speed and if my body position is right the knee will drag when the lean angle is right.

trogers013
08-13-2006, 11:25 AM
your advice about the hip movement helped me too great tip i never thought about.
i agree, great advice

Engloid
09-02-2006, 11:19 PM
If you are riding on the edge of the tire and lean more, you decrease contact patch. If you are on the edge of the tire and then improve your form, you can effectively go the same speed, but not be reducing the contact patch. In other words, by lowering center of gravity, you can accomplish higher corner speeds, when leaning the bike the same angle.

Wheeelieboy
09-07-2006, 07:17 PM
If you are riding on the edge of the tire and lean more, you decrease contact patch. If you are on the edge of the tire and then improve your form, you can effectively go the same speed, but not be reducing the contact patch. In other words, by lowering center of gravity, you can accomplish higher corner speeds, when leaning the bike the same angle.

Well as far as i know its not lowering the center of gravity, its more like bringing the weight towards the inside of the turn. I dont know where, but some article i read was discussing this point. I aint no engineer so i dont really know, just saying what i read. So no flames.

MotoJackal
09-30-2006, 04:37 PM
i've got an article that explains things pretty well...it actually makes sense too.

MotoJackal
09-30-2006, 04:40 PM
http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h292/GoMoto/break-down/qx2p1v.jpg

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