fatmonkey
07-28-2006, 12:06 AM
Im having a little trouble finding a line thru corners. honestly i dont know what im lookin for as far as where the best point is to start leaning or anything of the like. as of right now i dont really have a predetermined thought process when i approach corners i jus kinda take em without thinkin too much about it. basically what im askin is what am i lookin for when takin a corner.
Lost My License
07-28-2006, 01:15 AM
Tough question...Well it all depends on what type of corner your taking...Im no pro but I too had this question. Basics say most of the time you'll want to start on the outside of the corner to the inside of the corner (apex) then back to the outside. This is typically what I use in most corners. You'll begin your leaning as you enter the corner. When I started out I noticed I had a problem of running out of road when exiting corners. I figured out I was moving to the inside of the corner to soon so I began to hold more of the outside of the corner until it starts tightening up alittle and now I progressively get the bike to the inside of the corner and when exiting I have enough road to start to roll on the throttle more. Just find some of your favorite corners and start practicing this once you have more of a understanding you'll begin to apply it to other corners. I never hit a turn hard unless I know the road. In corners Ive never been through I use a slower entry speed and roll on the throttle through the corner. Ultimately if you feel like your running out of road two things start slower or start your turn in later. If you feel like your going to slow use a little more speed and turn in sooner. Hope this helps alittle.
slipper
07-28-2006, 04:10 PM
my best advice, pick up "twist of the wrist II" by keith code. like 20 bucks. you will learn more than you need about curves, apexes, lines, braking, where to look, throttle control, etc. i highly recommend it.
racer-rob
07-30-2006, 01:18 AM
What you could try to do is draw the track or corner( the track works better for this exercise) and start to draw a line from the finish line to the start line. Somehow someway you draw the lines you should be taking for th whole track. Try it:cheers
What you could try to do is draw the track or corner( the track works better for this exercise) and start to draw a line from the finish line to the start line. Somehow someway you draw the lines you should be taking for th whole track. Try it:cheers
I agree that it's a good method, but it requires that you at least have basic knowledge about choosing lines, so...
I'd recommend the Twist of the Wrist books as well and maybe the DVD based on the first one too. Good for visualisation.
And take the MSF course if you haven't...
brownbrown4
07-30-2006, 04:12 AM
+2 what they said Twist of the Wrist ... and get a buddy that knows what he's doing and follow him..... make sure to tell him to go slow for you !!
Forefall
07-30-2006, 04:33 AM
I too have twist of the wrist and it goes into more than just how to takes lines.
It goes into how to brake, how to use your body weight, how to look through corners, how to put X amount of weight on your front or rear wheel, when you need to put weight on a certain wheel. The list goes on.
fatmonkey
07-30-2006, 10:17 PM
thanks for the advice so far. :cheers now if i pick up jus the second twist of the wrist will i be lost at all for not reading the first one? ive been told the the first one is pretty much basic knowledge and the 2nd one is where it goes really into detail about the info im lookin for. I also hear that keith code is workin on the third one.
brownbrown4
07-30-2006, 10:27 PM
thanks for the advice so far. :cheers now if i pick up jus the second twist of the wrist will i be lost at all for not reading the first one? ive been told the the first one is pretty much basic knowledge and the 2nd one is where it goes really into detail about the info im lookin for. I also hear that keith code is workin on the third one.
you got in reverse... the first one is really race based.
streetfight3r
08-02-2006, 05:23 PM
Here's what I've learned about lines from going to the track. Its all about CORNER ENTRY. Set up so that you can take the straighest path to the apex, which generally means being as far to the outside as possible, but also with the latest corner entry as possible as well. The ideal line attempts to make the curviest corners as STRAIGHT as possible.
fridayman
08-03-2006, 03:53 AM
On the road you want to stay as wide as possible until the vanishing point moves away from you or you can see the exit of the corner, then its back on the gas :)
CanyonCarver23
09-10-2006, 08:22 AM
Theres a lot of factors in finding a good line.
First, I would go get a book and read a little. Learn some good info.
You start from outer of the lane go in clip the apex and go out wide again.
Wide - In - Wide
This is good practice for you just to understand what the bike does. Go to a twistie road that you know. Take one trip on the inner part of the lane and just follow that line and see how the bike reacts. But go slow dont go fast. Then on the way back take the outer part of the lane.