Now I am sure that we have all been out riding and that wild hair on you neck brainwashes you into clutching it up and riding it out. So with that being said, where is that sweet spot, what gear, what speed and where on the power band does your toy pops up to that perfect balance point?


06' 1000
stock
stiffer in the back, soft up front


1st gear, clutch in at 4k, clutch out at 7k

2nd gear, clutch in at 6k, clutch out at 8500- 9000k

3rd gear......ehhh, I'll get the balls one day:o

Banging off the rev limter in Turn 6 "Everyones favorite" Hallett Oklahoma

trying to find it on my 05 750. i power up. i hit one sunday for about a 1/4 mile. it seemed to be around 6k rpm.

BP is where your forks are parallel with the ground.

BP is where your forks are parallel with the ground.

...no



you know your at balance point when you stop accelerating and maintain a constant speed.

...no



you know your at balance point when you stop accelerating and maintain a constant speed.
.....yes
anything under 80mph, balance point is where you forks are about parallel with the ground AND where you stop accelerating and maintain a constant speed. I speak from experience, do you? If so, then have someone take a pic of you when your at BP. If you disagree, that's cool, I dont mean to get into a arguing match about it, just trying to help out another rider.

uhhh ok.........im pretty sure this post was intended to express "where" on the powerband is your sweet spot, not "What is BP?":hammer but all is well i guess

Now I am sure that we have all been out riding and that wild hair on you neck brainwashes you into clutching it up and riding it out. So with that being said, where is that sweet spot, what gear, what speed and where on the power band does your toy pops up to that perfect balance point?


06' 1000
stock
stiffer in the back, soft up front


1st gear, clutch in at 4k, clutch out at 7k

2nd gear, clutch in at 6k, clutch out at 8500- 9000k

3rd gear......ehhh, I'll get the balls one day:o
Sounds good. No need to go past 2nd, those bikes will do 100 in 1st!!
stick to 1st and learn the brake.
After that its just a feel. There is no specific sweet spot cause your weight, how you use your weight, throttle aggresiveness and brake control allow you to clutch almost anywhere. But where you have it sounds like a start. Learn the rear brake or you'll be parting that 06 out.:cheers

sweet spot is similar to the G spot, nobody can tell you, you just got to find it on your own!

drunken gixxer u clutch up at 4k in 1st gear? the 1000 will easily power up with a snap of the throttle at 4k.

.....yes
anything under 80mph, balance point is where you forks are about parallel with the ground AND where you stop accelerating and maintain a constant speed. I speak from experience, do you? If so, then have someone take a pic of you when your at BP. If you disagree, that's cool, I dont mean to get into a arguing match about it, just trying to help out another rider.

:lol come ride my blocks..

:lol come ride my blocks..
Been there done that. No different then Cali, except for the rain.

1st power up at 6k

drunken gixxer u clutch up at 4k in 1st gear? the 1000 will easily power up with a snap of the throttle at 4k.

Oh by all means this bike will come up on its own power. However I like getting to the BP before I am going 40mph. I dont claim to be the most experience wheelie rider, however, I came from riding 600's, and my throttle hand has learned the utmost respect for a 1000. I more so find myself doing it to f^ck with riders around me occasionally.:cool

why is there always a constant arguement on what the fuck balance point is:cursingthey should start banning people for this...and im not refering to the original poster

cause new people get on the site and have the same questions we did when we started

cause new people get on the site and have the same questions we did when we started
Thats cause most are lazy and dont spend time reading old posts. Two years ago when entering this sport, reading MANY of the old posts (mainly stuntlife.com) answered all my questions. Most of these new guys want you to hold there hand, but its all good, I just wish people would aleast read the stickies.

they should also understand that all the reading in the world isn't going to teach them anything they have to go out and practice. then practice some more. the reading is just for the ideas. take it easy though ya'll. at least at first. when you get the hang of it then you can do other stuff.

they should also understand that all the reading in the world isn't going to teach them anything they have to go out and practice. then practice some more. the reading is just for the ideas. take it easy though ya'll. at least at first. when you get the hang of it then you can do other stuff.+1 Practice makes perfect.

+1 Practice makes perfect.

+1 to that..

Oh by all means this bike will come up on its own power. However I like getting to the BP before I am going 40mph. I dont claim to be the most experience wheelie rider, however, I came from riding 600's, and my throttle hand has learned the utmost respect for a 1000. I more so find myself doing it to f^ck with riders around me occasionally.:cool
Yeah that's true, if your going slower and want to just throw it up it's nice to clutch these Nstead of powering it up and flying before you reach a good height. Just slip that clutch and let it fly right up.

3rd I slip the clutch at like 70 or so and she lofts up good on the highway. Or just get rolling real good on the highway drop her N 2nd and snap her (throttle) and she flies too.

The other day with a back pack full of oil from the dealer and I was around 7K N 3rd gear ...slipped her and that extra weight put her right up N the air. I wasn't really thinking I had a few punds on my back and it made a bikg difference.

Just messing around and I'm still learning what this bike can do.

Now I am sure that we have all been out riding and that wild hair on you neck brainwashes you into clutching it up and riding it out. So with that being said, where is that sweet spot, what gear, what speed and where on the power band does your toy pops up to that perfect balance point?



My 04 1000 will power up easily after 4000 rpm, just roll on the throttle and shes up - after doing clutch ups tho it seems.. ineffecient though. She'll clutch up anywhere in first gear-- 15mph, 55mph, etc. just a feel; rpms are always different. Second clutch in around 6k too and wack it and she pops right up. -havent pulled the 3rd yet...

Truthfully, there is no real set point for BP, as it differs from rider to rider. Different styles, different methods, different bikes, so on and so forth.

When I was learning and mastering BP, my favorite spot/gear would be around 50 in second. Now I'm pretty comfortable getting the bike up 1st-3rd and I can do it at a variety of speeds. It's nice, and I find that 3rd is the most versitile for highway wheelies, if you're going faster than 70, its gunna be tough to get second up [fast enough] clutching because you don't have to much rev's left. I still think I prefer second because the bike just comes right where I want it everytime, but I enjoy third because I can pull it up going faster and the throttle is much less twitchy is third.

What is with the "parallel" to the ground comments about BP? BP is affected by a number of things, the position of the forks may be a loose indicator of whether or not someone is at BP, but it's definetely NOT a science.

Look at this picture (I promise I won't post it again):

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a362/PHaTBaBiiGrL/wheelie001.jpg

I'm going about 60 in second at BP. Check them forks out, not really parallel, are they?

BP is basically parallel +or- 5 degree's. I dont think your at TRUE BP. Can you slow em down?? Many get confused with wheelies and BP wheelies, slowing it down, etc, thinking thats its all the same, but its all good. Nice pic.

BP is basically parallel +or- 5 degree's. I dont think your at TRUE BP. Can you slow em down?? Many get confused with wheelies and BP wheelies, slowing it down, etc, thinking thats its all the same, but its all good. Nice pic.

:lol Not at TRUE BP... Yes, I can slow them down, not to under 40ish, but I can bring it past BP and slow it down w/o even using ANY rear brake at all.

That wheelie in the picture, I rode for almost two miles. At the same speed the entire time, there was a car pacing me. I guess that's not TRUE BP.

It's ok to be wrong man. I wasn't trying to make it a big deal, but don't question my BP.

:lol Not at TRUE BP... Yes, I can slow them down, not to under 40ish, but I can bring it past BP and slow it down w/o even using ANY rear brake at all.

That wheelie in the picture, I rode for almost two miles. At the same speed the entire time, there was a car pacing me. I guess that's not TRUE BP.

It's ok to be wrong man. I wasn't trying to make it a big deal, but don't question my BP.

dont even waste your time with that dude. he's got his opinion.. even though its wrong

:lol Not at TRUE BP... Yes, I can slow them down, not to under 40ish, but I can bring it past BP and slow it down w/o even using ANY rear brake at all.

That wheelie in the picture, I rode for almost two miles. At the same speed the entire time, there was a car pacing me. I guess that's not TRUE BP.

It's ok to be wrong man. I wasn't trying to make it a big deal, but don't question my BP. After spending 8 months learning 1st and 2nd gear BP wheelies with the brake then being able to slow em down to a stall, my image of BP has been parallel to the ground. Rocking both feet back will make BP lower, so yes im wrong. My advice was for the average person learning wheelies and using good brake skill (not engine brake), for 1st gear, is basically parallel. Engine brake stuff I cant speak on. Engine braking it has never been my thing except for 2nd gear SS. I didnt mean to make it a big deal either, its just some tend to turn into internet ninjas, spitting advice left n right, after doing a couple power wheelies, then when someone with real experience pipes up, they put up blinders.

dont even waste your time with that dude. he's got his opinion.. even though its wrong
busta

.....yes
anything under 80mph, balance point is where you forks are about parallel with the ground AND where you stop accelerating and maintain a constant speed. I speak from experience, do you? If so, then have someone take a pic of you when your at BP. If you disagree, that's cool, I dont mean to get into a arguing match about it, just trying to help out another rider.

Vid of my boy on his 636 at bp. Forks not parallel with the ground...
:scratch
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g0p4aFHvng

Hold up, EVERYONE. Look, BP IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERY RIDER. Where my balance point is, may not be where 287 or Focer's is. THIS is the truth. Like I said, it varies with rider weight, body posistion, technique, bike, etc. Stop this "...no thats not BP, this is...." crap.

:lol My balance point is on 2 wheels...lol.
Naaa, actually mine is different depending on what gear I'm in, standing (can't stand all the way...6'7" tall, so crouch slightly), sitting or standing on my head.:punk It also has to do with your weight.