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To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Beginning at 47 seconds notice the difference between using front brake only and attempting to use both front and rear......and bear in mind that Nick Ienatsch is a former professional (champion) road racer that has MUCH better feel at modulating the rear brake than 99.999% of riders out there, where most of the rest of the world would be locking/skidding the rear and upsetting the bike's chassis/stability in the process.


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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

I must admit, i don't use it much at all. I feel guilty about it. I have had other instructors at tracks tell me that if you know how to use it, you can improve your laps. I just cant find a tactical use for it in that aspect. only time i ever use it is to bind up the suspension when i am in tight spaces.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Good info. I learned to use both brakes at MSF and it was helpful. Had a couple of instances where I had to hard brake using the front only and put it in memory. I wanna know how the bike reacts to my inputs so that when I need to react, I'll know what I'm capable of doing.


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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Hmmpph. I only use the rear brakes. Dats whys I removed dat useless 2nd front roter.

I added likes 3 mo hosrpowr by removin dat hevy chit
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There's a rear brake?
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

I use the rear brake...in town...
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Once againniy shows that he rear does almost nothing for actually stopping. In a perfect setup it barely helped. In the real world it won't help at all.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

I use my rear brake when in town. I guess it helps me balance it better when coming to a full stop.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

I use the rear brake in town for stop signs to rest my throttle hand
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Physics vs reality.....

Physics dictates that max breaking is only possible with both wheels on the ground. Reality proves that no human can do it.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Aye, when I'm coming to a stop sign/stop light, I'll often coast up to the light with both hands off the controls and use the rear to slow down. Once I get around 15-20 mph though, I put hands back on the controls. That and while riding on gravel are the only times I use the rear brake to slow down.

On hills at stop lights, yeah I use it to also keep the bike still when I'm giving my hands a break.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

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Aye, when I'm coming to a stop sign/stop light, I'll often coast up to the light with both hands off the controls

Have you tried with no hands and no feet? You should try it.


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Have you tried with no hands and no feet? You should try it.


Yes, yes I have. Air Brakes!


BTW, when I say I coast like that, I'm not talking when there's a car right next to me. I don't trust them, need to be able to maneuver quickly if they decide to move over. I meant like a stop sign or empty stop light where I have some breathing room.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

Is that what that weird lever by my right foot is ..... a rear brake?
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

I can only find the rear brake when I'm not on asphalt...
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

just remember that the video is a demonstration for emergency braking on a sportbike.
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I use my rear brake for sick slides yo!!
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Great video and really shows how limited the rear brake is under heavy braking. Nick Lentash's book was the first I bought about riding technique and it taught me a lot. I think the msf course emphasis on rear braking is geared more towards cruiser riders. My drz400s can take a good amount of rear braking also before lock up.

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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

The DRZ front brakes leave something to be desired as it is anyway..and it is a dirtbike.. Very different geometry.. My SM was the same way.
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Re: To help quell the myths of how to brake properly

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I use the rear brake in town for stop signs to rest my throttle hand
+1 exactly what I was thinking before I scrolled down to your comment.
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