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Idiot is thinking about upgrading soon

Hey guys, back again here and I have a different question. I'm looking to upgrade from my 250 to a 600 or even a 1000 by the end of March or April. I am leaning towards a 1000 over a 600 for value for money. I am looking to buy an older Yamaha R6 or R1. The problem I have is that 1999-2002 R6's are Carb'd bikes and I hate carbs at this point. The 2002 - 2008 Yamaha R1's look great and are also fuel injected. R1's seem to be selling cheaper than the 600's in my area so the financially best option is the 1000. Mommy and daddy are covering insurance so I don't need to worry about that. I guess what I am asking is there an advantage to owning a 1000 over a 600? I don't really know what i want to spend my money on. It would need to be a Fuel injected Yamaha R1 or R6 I guess.
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Now you're just trolling, so do whatever the fuck you want and fuck on over to the R1 forum as well at this point.

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Now you're just trolling, so do whatever the fuck you want and fuck on over to the R1 forum as well at this point.

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I said I was thinking about it. I've never ridden a 600 or a 1000, so what's the best for the street, and the best value for money, is that a bad question or something?
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Yes, yes it is and if you don't know why...

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Yes, yes it is and if you don't know why...

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Well I mean i've been riding my 250 quite a bit and I still have a couple months to gather my skills, am I suppose to keep the thing forever? I figured i'd ask the people who know best when it comes to motorcycles, which bike is more comfortable and better for the street and financially, etc. I like opinions on these things, that's why I ask. I don't know why you expect me to know fucking everything lol. But sure, sure it's probably a dumb question.
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We went over this when you came here, looking to buy a 750. There is nothing I or anyone else can tell you that you haven't heard or can't read in the stickies in the "starting line" and a month or two in Winter on a 250 has not taught you nearly anything except maybe how to work on that bike. Plain and simply, you are trolling to get a rise out of members but you rose the wrong member, namely, a staff member with a bad attitude who wont stand for trolling.

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That count down tho.........LMAO!
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We went over this when you came here, looking to buy a 750. There is nothing I or anyone else can't tell you that you haven't heard or can read in the stickies in the "starting line" and a month or two in Winter on a 250 has not taught you nearly anything except maybe how to work on that bike. Plain and simply, you are trolling to get a rise out of members but you rose the wrong member, namely, a staff member with a bad attitude who wont stand for trolling.

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I aint done riding the 250 yet. I've been riding every day since I got my permit, in the ice, in the snow, in the rain, and in the cold. The whole thing about 750 was completely stupid, I was definetley a dumbass on that one and I admit that now looking back on that stupidity. No need to get so angry over a simple question. I'm not trolling. if I was trolling, I would have mentioned something about a twin turboed Hyabusa. Maybe you should work on the whole attitude thing I guess.
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Yeah, no as I'm cranky, old and just don't care. Been down this road too many times to count and I'm done with it. You say you are not trolling but see, I say you are and I'm the one with powers. You know very well you are no where near ready nor the very minimal 10,000 miles before upgrading to a street legal race bike. As I've said 10,001 times, I started on a carbed EX500 and rode it for nearly 4 years, 32,000 miles my first year and 80,000 miles before getting a 750. This was in the dark ages before the internet yes, but not once did I feel the need to ask/get approval from anyone before going to a ZX-7 Ninja. I knew I was ready and that is all that mattered...that I knew I was ready to move up without question.

Do what you will and justify it anyway you must...you are not ready, not even in August will you be ready let alone March/April. Buy it and go to the Yammi site.

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Yeah, no as I'm cranky, old and just don't care. Been down this road too many times to count and I'm done with it. You say you are not trolling but see, I say you are and I'm the one with powers. You know very well you are no where near ready nor the very minimal 10,000 miles before upgrading to a street legal race bike. As I've said 10,001 times, I started on a carbed EX500 and rode it for nearly 4 years, 32,000 miles my first year and 80,000 miles before getting a 750. This was in the dark ages before the internet yes, but not once did I feel the need to ask/get approval from anyone before going to a ZX-7 Ninja. I knew I was ready and that is all that mattered...that I knew I was ready to move up without question.

Do what you will and justify it anyway you must...you are not ready, not even in August will you be ready let alone March/April. Buy it and go to the Yammi site.

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If you read my OP you'd see I asked what is better one for monetary value, and street use. I wasn't asking if I am ready, I'm thinking I will be ready. Telll me i'm not ok lol I guess, but you still haven't answered the questions i'm asking.
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I'm looking to upgrade from my 250 to a 600 or even a 1000 by the end of March or April.
Ah shit my bad, so this here was not you then? I guess it confused me as it was buried in a bunch of other horseshit. What's best for street, a 600 or a 1000? Neither for you, 600 marginally better as it has less torque/horsepower and might actually trick you into thinking you have skill...till you find out you have no skills and crash and hurt/kill yourself and/or hurt/kill someone else. Bottom line, you are a new rider with no discernible skill who happens to be 16!!!!!!!!!! Wait till Spring/Summer and do some track schools and learn just how much you don't know and find out just how fun that 250 is, when you know how to truly ride it.

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Ah shit my bad, so this here was not you then? I guess it confused me as it was buried in a bunch of other horseshit. What's best for street, a 600 or a 1000? Neither for you, 600 marginally better as it has less torque/horsepower and might actually trick you into thinking you have skill...till you find out you have no skills and crash and hurt/kill yourself and/or hurt/kill someone else. Bottom line, you are a new rider with no discernible skill who happens to be 16!!!!!!!!!! Wait till Spring/Summer and do some track schools and learn just how much you don't know and find out just how fun that 250 is, when you know how to truly ride it.

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So just because I am 16 makes me some kind of second class citizen? my dad, who used to ride, followed me on my 250 and told me, not just to make me feel good, that i was doing extremely well. I have enough skill to ride my 250 safely and I am still building on that skill and will continue to build on it. You are trying to invalidate my skill and my knowledge just because of my age. Maybe if you saw me ride your opinion would change. I have been recording some of my rides and i'd be happpy to link you to my youtube channel so you can judge me even more. How about you forget my age, and my previous riding experience and answer my fucking question huh.

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Whatever, you want to make it about your age which is only part of it than fine. As I said, do what you will, so 1000 is better for street or so I hear. Never ridden one, never felt the need for one as even my EX500 was enough to get my license yanked. 1000, more torque everywhere and don't need to shift as much. Personally I like shifting and with over 70 mph in 1st gear, plenty to get you a ticket. I hear the 1000 does over 100mph in 1st, so yeah, faster.

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Oh yeah, one more thing. Don't be surprised if insurance will cost you $10,000 a year, it just might. Even a 600 can cost as much as a new bike a year unless you or your parents lie to get cheaper insurance but that is a whole other ball of wax, all together.
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Hey guys, back again here and I have a different question. I'm looking to upgrade from my 250 to a 600 or even a 1000 by the end of March or April. I am leaning towards a 1000 over a 600 for value for money. I am looking to buy an older Yamaha R6 or R1. The problem I have is that 1999-2002 R6's are Carb'd bikes and I hate carbs at this point. The 2002 - 2008 Yamaha R1's look great and are also fuel injected. R1's seem to be selling cheaper than the 600's in my area so the financially best option is the 1000. Mommy and daddy are covering insurance so I don't need to worry about that. I guess what I am asking is there an advantage to owning a 1000 over a 600? I don't really know what i want to spend my money on. It would need to be a Fuel injected Yamaha R1 or R6 I guess.
Avoid the older R1s and R6s in my opinion. The GSX-R was a superior bike at that point in time. Factory steering damper, fuel injection, digital speedo, etc.... just look at all the tank slapper vids on YouTube and see how many are gixxers and how many are old R1/R6s. There is something about their geometry (and Yamaha formally acknowledged this) that makes them more prone to it. If you were looking at bikes from 08 and on, then most of what I said is negligible.

I went from a Ninja 250 to a GSX-R 600 to a GSX-R 1000 all in the same season. I am selling the 1000 now. It's just far too much. At least on the 600, which is only around 99 whp, I can still putz around on route 1 around the stadium and wring out the first two gears and have some fun. I can't do a god damn thing on the 1000. 8k RPMs in 1st has me at 65mph...and there is still another 6k left. The guy I bought the bike from was a track rider. I asked why he was getting rid of it and he said it's too much power. So I would heed the warnings associated with liter bikes...it really is just too much for someone that hasn't seriously pushed the limits of a 600 first.

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Jesus Christ. I was expecting hilarious stuff considering your last thread, but this exceeds . Do you even know how to countersteer, yet? Do you know what to do when the rear end starts sliding out?
At your riding experience level, which is still so low it's pretty much equal to zero, the last thing you need to be concerned with is value of a bike when choosing between a 600 and a 1000. Riding for a few months does not give you any experience, even if it's in ice and snow. Especially when you're on a baby 250 that barely has the power to spin the wheels on black ice.

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So just because I am 16 makes me some kind of second class citizen? my dad, who used to ride, followed me on my 250 and told me, not just to make me feel good, that i was doing extremely well. I have enough skill to ride my 250 safely and I am still building on that skill and will continue to build on it. You are trying to invalidate my skill and my knowledge just because of my age. Maybe if you saw me ride your opinion would change. I have been recording some of my rides and i'd be happpy to link you to my youtube channel so you can judge me even more. How about you forget my age, and my previous riding experience and answer my fucking question huh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6W8cSTScbbM If you really want to see idgaf at this point
If you would look some real feedback on your riding take an advanced riding course. You can only get so much from a video and in this video you are riding a few empty boring roads so it's not very useful.

One thing I did pick up is that you went through the green light without looking both ways carefully, one day someone will jump that red light and run you down so always look!

Like others have said, start small, maybe with a non-sporty big bike like a CB500 or suchlike - sports bikes are not great for learners and you have your whole life ahead of you.

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Oh, I didn't even see that you're only 16. Your riding looks fine man but the reality is you have very little experience on the road overall so it's essentially a case of not even knowing what to know if that makes any sense. You're in a good position with the Ninja 250 right now. I would consider a Ninja 500 or a SV650 or something alone those lines. Your age and inexperience is going to be your demise on a proper sport bike.
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