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05 1000 unable to start

A friend of mine has a 05 gsxr 1000 and has turned it into a race bike. He has removed all the taillights and headlight. After that the bike started fine. Well today he cut the harness (wires) that lead to the left handlebar pod(?) Where the horn and turn signal switches are. Since then the bike wont turn over. You can hear the fuel pump, however the bike won't start up. Could this be the clutch position sensor? All the problems started after he cut the wires or harness that leads to the left side. Any ideas? When you push the start button theres nothing. No click sound. New battery as well

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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

He was lazy to remove it properly but decided it would be easier to cut it lmao

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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

Lol,you/he already know the answer to this: re-connect the wires that were cut&see if that fixes it
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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

I'm just posting this as he is too embarrassed to make a post about this. Who cares we all f... Up. So oldg should their be a reason why it won't start? I don't believe their are any wires on the left pod (that's what I'm calling it) that will stop the bike from starting; unless I'm wrong. I'm no mechanic by any means but i can do most things on a bike. However I have never had to cut any harnesses on my bikes so I'm lost on this one and highly doubt he is going to rewire 12wires. Lazy wanker lol

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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

clutch switch...
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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

K6tracjday you were right. Wired in the black and yellow and black and white wires from the clutch switch and it worked. He's happy now and vows to never cut wires again
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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

Another thing to take into consideration, when the clutch switch is active some of the suzuki models actually run the neutral ignition map timing. The ECU ignores the gear position sensor. I have the yosh kit wire harness and ecu on my bike so didnt have to deal with this but its something to look into when getting rid of the clutch switch on bikes.

To clarify, you will lose hp.

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Another thing to take into consideration, when the clutch switch is active some of the suzuki models actually run the neutral ignition map timing. The ECU ignores the gear position sensor. I have the yosh kit wire harness and ecu on my bike so didnt have to deal with this but its something to look into when getting rid of the clutch switch on bikes.

To clarify, you will lose hp.
I cut the wires to my clutch switch too, is there more information on what bikes this effects or how to work around it?
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clutch switch...
Ding-ding-ding..
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He cut off the clutch switch..
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Re: 05 1000 unable to start

His clutch switch is wired and taped already and the bike runs normal. So its back on but I removed the blinker/horn pod that holds it if that makes sense. So we did not eliminate the clutch switch just rewired it so he still has to pull in the clutch. Lazy guy.

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You can put a toggle switch on the clutch wires as well.
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Thanks Corey will let him know. Ya'll are awesome

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I cut the wires to my clutch switch too, is there more information on what bikes this effects or how to work around it?
Most Suzuki EFI sytems do this, and by lose hp I mean up to 10% in some cases. There was a lot of info on this going around some years back.

Here is a link: http://wotid.com/tls/content/view/18/56/

As in the link you can either jumper out the switch and cut the wire to the ecu (lose the startup map) or wire in a relay. Note the link talks about the TL1000 so wire colors will be different bike to bike.
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I cut the wires to my clutch switch too, is there more information on what bikes this effects or how to work around it?
Like they said wire in a toggle switch. Or just keep the switch and cut the other wires. That's what we did. Keep black/yellow and black/white wires. Not sure if its the same color on your bike. Then we zip tied the wires and ran electrical tape around it and bamm back in business. Well we didn't do what he wanted which is removing the switch. At least the pod harness is gone so it looks more like a race bike. I told him to keep the clutch sensor and also told him about possible power loss if you remove the clutch sensor.

That was convincing enough lol

Well off to bed for me as I have to be up in a few hrs for work

Thanks again fellas

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thanks for the info. I'll wire in a relay.
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