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Race spoiler!!! Race spoiler!!!

SUZUKI AIN'T NO FUCKING 2ND tier company.

Maverick Vinales pulled a fucking dominating race out of his ass... and after a RED FLAG restart! he couldn't see marquez or rossi behind him. he was gone!

Suzuki has great things in the pipelines for us... and this will all stem from the great things they are doing in MOTOGP. its a shame Vinales will be going to Movistar Yamaha next year, but hopefully Iannone will do great things. he is the maniac afterall.
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Re: Race spoiler!!! Race spoiler!!!

Really? So they win one GP race since 2007, while Yamaha and Honda have been dominating, and you think this redeems them?

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Re: Race spoiler!!! Race spoiler!!!

It's a start. But there's a long way to go. No doubt about Vinales' talent. And the GSX-RR is a good bike. But it's very finicky about what tracks and conditions let it perform well. I expect that there will be some trickle-down to the GSX-R from the racing program, eventually. But they're still trying to gain consistency within MotoGP. This weekend definitely showed Suzuki's POTENTIAL, but I wouldn't say they've turned the corner toward being a dominant force just yet. I'm definitely a Suzuki die-hard, and it was a great weekend. Hopefully there's more to come!

I would speculate that when Suzuki gets back into WSBK, that will have a more direct effect on what we get on the street bikes in a few years.
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It's a start. But there's a long way to go. No doubt about Vinales' talent. And the GSX-RR is a good bike. But it's very finicky about what tracks and conditions let it perform well. I expect that there will be some trickle-down to the GSX-R from the racing program, eventually. But they're still trying to gain consistency within MotoGP. This weekend definitely showed Suzuki's POTENTIAL, but I wouldn't say they've turned the corner toward being a dominant force just yet. I'm definitely a Suzuki die-hard, and it was a great weekend. Hopefully there's more to come!

I would speculate that when Suzuki gets back into WSBK, that will have a more direct effect on what we get on the street bikes in a few years.
They raced in 2015, just not 2016.
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They raced in 2015, just not 2016.
I mean when they bring the NEW GSX-R into WSBK. That development should have impact on the subsequent street bikes. Other than BNG, I doubt if anything Crescent did amounted to much development on the street GSX-R. That bike went basically unchanged for years. Hopefully the inverse will be true as well - the new production bike may make Suzuki competitive in WSBK. Although I'm loving seeing the Yosh MotoAmerica team still in there even with a dated bike.
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Re: Race spoiler!!! Race spoiler!!!

I think that Mav's win was not due to the bike, and more his riding. When Suzuki is on the podium more, then I'll give them the credit.

Does the Suzuki Motogp team have anything to do with production research and design? I feel as if those are separate entities
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Re: Race spoiler!!! Race spoiler!!!

Simply getting the right suspension set up for a track can make or break a bike.
They seem to have plenty of motor though.
I'm really curious how Lorenzo will do on a Duck.
Not sure if money pushed him or getting blown past on the straights that got to him.
Personally, Yamaha has been blessed to have Rossi and Lorenzo.
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What a fallacious attitude towards this.
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Really? So they win one GP race since 2007, while Yamaha and Honda have been dominating, and you think this redeems them?

doesn't redeem them, but 2nd season back and vinales and crew are 4th in point standings. only 5 pts ahead of pedrosa, but still ahead. now he just has to keep it up and stay consistent.

can't help but root for the underdogs.
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Of course Suzuki hasnt spent 1/100th of Yamaha or Honda and look at who rides what?
Lets put Rossi and Marquez on the Suzukis and see what happens.
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Of course Suzuki hasnt spent 1/100th of Yamaha or Honda and look at who rides what?
Lets put Rossi and Marquez on the Suzukis and see what happens.
I say they'll stay behind.

what seems to make the difference and there are multiple winners this year is tires,or better the choice of compound.of course paired with spec ecu that mostly affected the most advanced teams (Yamaha,Honda)
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"MotoGP riders and teams are still adjusting to the new-for-2016 Michelin tyres. They donít know French rubber as well as they knew the Bridgestones, so thereís often an element of guesswork on Sundays, especially since Michelinís compound allocations provide a greater range of potential race tyres than Bridgestoneís allocations.

Riders and teams are also getting used to the same-for-all Magneti software, which has substantially reduced the performance the gap behind the dominant Honda and Yamaha factories, which previously enjoyed a major advantage with their cutting-edge traction control, anti-wheelie, engine-braking control and launch control. Suddenly, Suzuki and Ducati can beat Honda and Yamaha.

Also, the unified software is much less sophisticated than the previous tailor-made factory kit, so riders have to work much harder to control the bikes, using their talent and throttle control, rather than the factory-made rider aids doing much of the work for them."


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http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/op...m_campaign=Mat

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"MotoGP riders and teams are still adjusting to the new-for-2016 Michelin tyres. They donít know French rubber as well as they knew the Bridgestones, so thereís often an element of guesswork on Sundays, especially since Michelinís compound allocations provide a greater range of potential race tyres than Bridgestoneís allocations.

Riders and teams are also getting used to the same-for-all Magneti software, which has substantially reduced the performance the gap behind the dominant Honda and Yamaha factories, which previously enjoyed a major advantage with their cutting-edge traction control, anti-wheelie, engine-braking control and launch control. Suddenly, Suzuki and Ducati can beat Honda and Yamaha.

Also, the unified software is much less sophisticated than the previous tailor-made factory kit, so riders have to work much harder to control the bikes, using their talent and throttle control, rather than the factory-made rider aids doing much of the work for them."


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MotoGP has turned upside down | Motor Sport Magazine

it has been a crazy year for GP. not much of the season left... but bad weather certainly makes things interesting... "brave and the brainy" lol.
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