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Todd's K5 Liter Bike...

Many of you have read that I was scheming on going from my '97 R750,
to a K6 Liter bike.

So it was all set up, my family dropped me off after breakfast at the sellers home.
After handing him the cash, I doned my gear, and took it for a test ride.
A few blocks from his house, on was a local state Hwy.
I compared it to all the larger sport bikes I've ever ridden, including my latest
R750 I rode just a few days ago.
It is much smoother than all my previous bikes- as in systems worked easier
and less variance of the system. It's a smooth ride also.

I did a U turn on the divided Hwy, and in 2nd gear, blipped the throttle at about 4K rpm-
the front wheel comes up! In 2nd, not even really in the power band yet!!

I thought, no, I knew my R750 I rode days ago IS fast, and runs great!

But after only a 5 minute test ride, on the way back to his house,
I was asking myself 'Are you f'ing kidding me?', and
thinking 'Get the F^^K OUt of here!'
(translated to ' could it be this much more awesome- than My R 750?- Hell yes!)

I gladly signed the Bill of Sale and the Title.

I had planned to go from there, back into Milwaukee and meet my usual
group, which was meeting up with
a huge group ride 'The Milltown Throw Down'
Last year it got a lot of press- cop cars running bikes off the road- on video, etc.
NOt so much thins year- thank goodness.
We ride all thru town, and end up at large unused smooth parking lots-
many a Stunt was seen.

I put about 100mi on it before I ever got home, and I picked it up 12 miles from home.

Because I was near the city, and often in the crowded group ride,
I really didn't get a chance to 'go thru the gears' yet.
I was able to blip it some in 2nd and 3rd gears, and did at least 3 small/medium wheelies today as well.
Unlike many in the group ride, I did NOT sent it to rev limiter with the clutch in,
ot do any burn outs'- I no fun, I know- right?

It seems to 'pull close to 40-50% harder, so far without getting it near Redline.

It shifts smoother- with clutch or usually no clutch used.
It runs smooth, sure, like a new bike should even with 12,950 miles it had when I picked it up.
It stops well- not sure what if anything has been done to the braking system yet.

It handles/turns really well.
It seems way more 'nimble' than my R750.
By nimble, I mean it goes into a corner much easier, with way less effort to get the bike to do what you're intending.
I didn't check the tire pressures yet, so I didn't want to 'push it' too much in a corner before I ever got it home. There was really no opportunity on any long, fast, smooth corners anyway today- was mostly in the group ride, etc.
I'll have time to get it to some safe 'twisties' in the area soon.

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I took some pics of the bike and a few things about it when I got home.

The new Steed, my new to me K6, 1 liter- essentially Mint condition- 12,950mi.



Some pics of the exhaust, I can't find ANY catalytic converters, Set valves, etc. anywhere looking carefully,
I tried to take some pics as well. Looks like a Ti, or SS exhaust - more like Ti however-
those that know, take a look and see what you think:
<a href="http://s658.photobucket.com/user/TexasTodd_photo/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2D610501-9122-4851-A20B-38D5B082D817_zpswndxkbss.jpg.html" target="_blank"><img src="http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/uu302/TexasTodd_photo/Mobile%20Uploads/2D610501-9122-4851-A20B-38D5B082D817_zpswndxkbss.jpg" border="0" alt=" photo 2D610501-9122-4851-A20B-38D5B082D817_zpswndxkbss.jpg"/></a>





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Thru the front grill:



this shot, fronm the center/bottom looking back toward the muffler



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The Michlelin tire set:

The rear wheel- stock- right?


And of course- the Blue chain:
It distinctly says (I think)
EK 530
ZVl....
and other links just say 'JAPAN'- not chinese then, can I get an 'Amen'?


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Hard to tell from your pics but that looks like the OEM titanium headers and a TRC slipon. The chain (maybe an EK ZVX2 or ZVX3) looks dirty and not well maintained. You could clean/lube it and check how much it's stretched. But you might also consider replacing it. The OEM rear sprocket was 42T, so it's been replaced. Possibly the front sprocket has been changed too. Things seem to be starting to rust. The Yoshimura front clamp has a steel T-bolt that rusts up/seizes. There are stainless equivalents. The header to cylinder head bolts have a small amount of rust. This can be a big problem if they seize so this wouldn't be a bad time to check that they come out. A small amount of antiseize on reinstallation wouldn't hurt (reduce the torque). A general cleaning may be in order. We've previously discussed the handlebar risers.
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That is a stock exhaust manifold with a slip-on
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Beautiful. Congrats!
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Now get a good set of clip ons, that current setup is
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Otherwise looks very nice! Congratulations and ride safe!
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I gladly signed the Bill of Sale and the Title.

I had planned to go from there, back into Milwaukee and meet my usual
group, which was meeting up with
a huge group ride 'The Milltown Throw Down'
Last year it got a lot of press- cop cars running bikes off the road- on video, etc.
NOt so much thins year- thank goodness.
We ride all thru town, and end up at large unused smooth parking lots-
many a Stunt was seen.

I put about 100mi on it before I ever got home, and I picked it up 12 miles from home.

Because I was near the city, and often in the crowded group ride,
I really didn't get a chance to 'go thru the gears' yet.
I was able to blip it some in 2nd and 3rd gears, and did at least 3 small/medium wheelies today as well.
Unlike many in the group ride, I did NOT sent it to rev limiter with the clutch in,
ot do any burn outs'- I no fun, I know- right?
Sounds like you need to find a new group to ride with.

You wont find the SET valve because the OEM muffler was replaced. You wont find any cat's on that bike either,that started with the K7.

I'd also plan on a full clutch adjustment ASAP. K5/6 clutches will act funky if out of adjustment,or if improperly adjusted.

Also noticed you are +1 on the rear,wondering of you have -1 up front which is mandatory on a K5/6 as 1st gear is ridiculoulsy tall. May want to pull the CS cover and have a looky.
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Hard to tell from your pics but that looks like the OEM titanium headers and a TRC slipon. The chain (maybe an EK ZVX2 or ZVX3) looks dirty and not well maintained. You could clean/lube it and check how much it's stretched. But you might also consider replacing it. The OEM rear sprocket was 42T, so it's been replaced. Possibly the front sprocket has been changed too. Things seem to be starting to rust. The Yoshimura front clamp has a steel T-bolt that rusts up/seizes. There are stainless equivalents. The header to cylinder head bolts have a small amount of rust. This can be a big problem if they seize so this wouldn't be a bad time to check that they come out. A small amount of antiseize on reinstallation wouldn't hurt (reduce the torque). A general cleaning may be in order. We've previously discussed the handlebar risers.
Thanks on the headers- does TRC make the Yoshi Carbon slip on?
Here is what I found on the sprocket size, cut and pasted out of a chart:
Gsxr 1000 2001-2006; 17 Front, 42 Rear, 110 Links, 530 Pitch

Gsxr 1000 2007-2008; 17 Front, 43 Rear, 110 Links, 530 Pitch

I'll keep in mind about the seizing metals- esp. when different types. From my sailing experience- especially when sailing in salt water, seizing was very common.
I still have some really nice copper based anti-seize compound I'll use when I need to.
Overall the bike is very clean, that close up really did show the chain grime however.
I have the stock clips ons and upper triple- I plan on trying both and deciding. The cables/wires fit either set up, so changing will be rather easy.
** I"m also contemplating flipping the bars over, which will which will still put it about an inch above the clip on height.- with my short arms- this may be the ticket!

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That is a stock exhaust manifold with a slip-on
Thanks for the info- It looks large and free flowing- with the Yoshi carbon slip on

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Beautiful. Congrats!
Thank You!!

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Now get a good set of clip ons, that current setup is
I have the OEM clip ons and top triple- I'll be re-installing soon to see the differences.

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+1!

Otherwise looks very nice! Congratulations and ride safe!
Thanks! I've always been super defense driver, especially when on the bike.

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Sounds like you need to find a new group to ride with.

You wont find the SET valve because the OEM muffler was replaced. You wont find any cat's on that bike either,that started with the K7.

I'd also plan on a full clutch adjustment ASAP. K5/6 clutches will act funky if out of adjustment,or if improperly adjusted.

Also noticed you are +1 on the rear,wondering of you have -1 up front which is mandatory on a K5/6 as 1st gear is ridiculoulsy tall. May want to pull the CS cover and have a looky.
Congrats
The two wheeled familia- group I often ride with- I'm happy to be a part of. They accept me, and everyone else- all about the 2 wheeled thing. They are a good buch of mostly younger people- who will have your back- like bike break downs, not running well, etc.
Lucky for me they all speak English- and usually only speak English. It's a nice brotherhood- they have jobs, etc.- good bunch of people. Sorry for the tangent.

Thanks for enlightening me on the exhaust systemn too. Does that mean there is no O2 sensor in the system on my K6 then, 'cause looking with the fairings on, I couldn't find one.
Looks as though it is +1 on the rear as you say.
The Blue chain- aftermarket obviously- but if EK- is probably OK?
I'll get around to checking the CS.
And thanks for the support

NOw I'm going to check the tire pressures, and ride it to church on the Sunday morning!
It's in the mid 40's this morning!!

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Thanks on the headers- does TRC make the Yoshi Carbon slip on?.....
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Thanks! I've always been super defense driver, especially when on the bike.



The two wheeled familia- group I often ride with- I'm happy to be a part of. They accept me, and everyone else- all about the 2 wheeled thing. They are a good buch of mostly younger people- who will have your back- like bike break downs, not running well, etc.
Lucky for me they all speak English- and usually only speak English. It's a nice brotherhood- they have jobs, etc.- good bunch of people. Sorry for the tangent.

Thanks for enlightening me on the exhaust systemn too. Does that mean there is no O2 sensor in the system on my K6 then, 'cause looking with the fairings on, I couldn't find one.
Looks as though it is +1 on the rear as you say.
The Blue chain- aftermarket obviously- but if EK- is probably OK?
I'll get around to checking the CS.
And thanks for the support

NOw I'm going to check the tire pressures, and ride it to church on the Sunday morning!
It's in the mid 40's this morning!!
The TRC is a muffler made by Yosh and it's just one of their models. See the link I provided for more accurate descriptions of whats available from Yosh:
Yoshimura Road Muffler Guide

As for your group,I wasn't judging them,or you....I was simply commenting on this statement you posted ...."( and often in the crowded group ride).
Group rides such as this often lead to one of the group,going down and getting hurt. Personally(I know you did not ask for my opinion,Im putting it out there for any lurkers reading this who are new to riding) I never ride with more then 4-6 people as I've experienced over the last 3 decades,that it's much easier to crash when you have a pack mentality and many riders in a group.

There is no O2 sensor.

I was also looking forward to taking out the K5 turbo,not to church but to Mexico where I can get some boosting in this morning but its raining


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Yup, @oldgixxer and I know all too well what happens when you get too many riders out there at the same time.

No bueno.
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No bueno.
Ely.....
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"I can't find ANY catalytic converters"

Only the European K6's had catalytic converters. As OG says, they weren't on all models until K7.
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I'll take those riser bars off your hands.
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The TRC is a muffler made by Yosh and it's just one of their models. See the link I provided for more accurate descriptions of whats available from Yosh:
Yoshimura Road Muffler Guide

As for your group,I wasn't judging them,or you....I was simply commenting on this statement you posted ...."( and often in the crowded group ride).
Group rides such as this often lead to one of the group,going down and getting hurt. Personally(I know you did not ask for my opinion,Im putting it out there for any lurkers reading this who are new to riding) I never ride with more then 4-6 people as I've experienced over the last 3 decades,that it's much easier to crash when you have a pack mentality and many riders in a group.

There is no O2 sensor.

I was also looking forward to taking out the K5 turbo,not to church but to Mexico where I can get some boosting in this morning but its raining
Thanks for the info and link on the Yoshis.
OG- no, I never thought you were being judgemental- and I appreciate your opinion.
I totally agree, and more the reason I'm real cautious, break off the group ride often, etc.
Thanks for your Objective/experienced opinion on this, and I totally agree.

Mexico? What state are you in?

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Yup, @oldgixxer and I know all too well what happens when you get too many riders out there at the same time.

No bueno.
Agreed, my CL find K6 isn't expendable to me.
As someone already said, I prefer small groups too, as in 4 total, etc.

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Ely.....
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"I can't find ANY catalytic converters"

Only the European K6's had catalytic converters. As OG says, they weren't on all models until K7.
Thanks, already heard/read.

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Todd,if you really want a cat I can send you the one off my L3
No I'm good, but thanks anyways- I'll catch ya next time

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Thanks for the info and link on the Yoshis.
OG- no, I never thought you were being judgemental- and I appreciate your opinion.
I totally agree, and more the reason I'm real cautious, break off the group ride often, etc.
Thanks for your Objective/experienced opinion on this, and I totally agree.

Mexico? What state are you in?

It's code for saying that he's going to have a bit of fun on open roads.
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