For me I am not a fan of single sided swing arms...but to be honest I have not been around them hardly at all...but that could change I guess...
But my main point in posting this is to say, man when you buy a swing arm kit from Roaringtoyz
they sure give you the full deal.
When I saw the prices I was like...what 7-10G for a swing arm...but when I looked at what
was in the kit I was just as shocked...They sure look like they are well made...so I guess 7-10 G is not bad for what you get...but for sure they are not for me
You are interested in form over function? A show bike? Maybe it's good for show, however from an engineering and functional perspective they have many disadvantages.
Thank you so much for all the fast and great replies.
So I'm interested in it, simply because they look fantastic (in My eyes)
I have more Than enough HP ( 183,4) on the wheel so I'm really happy with it.
(Can tell in another post what I did to it)
I have contacted ram and I'm waiting for their answer.
Greggs came back at me today with a
4000us price tag inclusive rear wheel.
I guess that a good price.
I will look in to Roaringtoyz straight away.
I have seen some with duc swings and one with a vfr but didn't get the chance to talk to them about it.
Anyone with some experience with
It or am I the only one with "bad " taste here
I like the idea of a Duke arm. Parts and replaceability are much easier. Especially a few years down the track when the other specialist companies may not be around.
It's your bike and your eyes, so go for it - I guess. I soured on them when the Desmosedici came out and it had a standard swingarm. It's the same with the RC213V. I've since considered it to be a styling gimmick.
Tony Foale does a relatively detailed (albeit qualitative, without hard numbers, as they're difficult to come by) analysis in his "Motorcycle Handling and Chassis Design" (see page 8-19) and concludes that they're probably equally good, assuming they're well designed. It's certainly not conclusive and things will probably have moved on since the book was written, but in my experience, he's generally one of the the few, if not the only, non-academic writer, that seems to always know what he's talking about.
Saw this a few months too late but I did it with my K1. I would do it again in a hearbeat. I loved it. Early 90's VFR750 swingarm (the narrow one...later were too wide), K6 GSXR600 shock, links were heims and stainless threaded rod, VFR800 spool and wheel. The lugs on the frame had to be shaved down to fit the arm and that is going to be the real kicker...you have to measure the lugs and shave some of each side off and it has to be the right amount or the swingarm, and by extension the wheel, will never center. For the sake of a matching from wheel I ran a 2005 R6 full front end with 320mm EBC rotors and spacers to stretch the calipers back to them. I made a thread here that covers it at gsxr.com but, honestly, everyones new password requirements are ludicrous and I'm no longer willing to participate in that kind of "security".
An R6 front end and a Honda VFR rear end on the original 2001 GSX-R1000? :scratch How does one take a bike from legendary status to this? I need to know the thought process just to make sure I'm not the one that's crazy.
Well obviously the single side swingarm itself is purely a cosmetic thing done because I get off on them...but if you can explain how a superior fork, superior brakes, an -8mm wheelbase, and shaving off nearly 14lbs of unsprung weight and just shy of 30lbs altogether are ruining the perfect creation that was Suzuki's K1 1000 I'd love to here it.
not to mention the machine came to me in boxes and in disasterous condition...she's lucky I got her because she was heading to the scrap yard.
1. K1 is by no means perfect. It's not even close to it, actually.
2. Numbers alone mean nothing
3. That thing looks odd, as though the rake and trail are off, and that the front is taller than the rear.
it's the fairings. They're a set of fiberglass race fairings that never really fit up correctly. I have some pictures somewhere on the stock suspension and it still looks like that because the fairings seem angled "up" almost.
My Buddy used to ride a BMW R1200S with a SSW and I thought it looked awesome. When we'd ride, I'd find myself riding behind him always to the one side because I thought it looked so cool, the rear wheel just floating there, seemingly unattached.
However, I trust BMWs engineering and the structural rigidity of their quality OEM SSW. Not sure about bolting-on someone's creation.
I've been a fan of using Ducati, Triumph, and VFR arms because those guys have tremendous research into the materials to make it work and be safe. There's a lot of aftermarket guys who make them and some look very nice...Metmachex use to offer a couple of very sexy tubular arms made from chromoly that I'm sure were fine, but I'd never want to push them. If you do it use an arm that has boocoo's of money and decades of generational development behind it.
i like mine.. and doesn't upset the handling.. like everyone seems to think.. though I did put one on so i could run undertail exhaust without it looking goofy, so that helps the case.
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