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*Quote, it's even in the lower right hand corner of every post, you clicked on it to quote GI-John and yourself.

Ugh, yes my grammar has been less than adequate as of late. I cannot believe I misspelled something written on the button I click so often. If you read my self quote you will read alot of grammatical errors as well, and I even checked over it several times before originally posting it.
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Ugh, yes my grammar has been less than adequate as of late. I cannot believe I misspelled something written on the button I click so often. If you read my self quote you will read alot of grammatical errors as well, and I even checked over it several times before originally posting it.
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I'll make a deal with ya, ya old fart. haha You buy my brother a new Busa. I'll pay for the turbo and we will give it to him(It'll be his first bike.) 1000 miles within a year enough to prove your point? If he crashes I pay you for the bike and then some. If he doesn't we keep the bike. Since you are so emotionally involved with this "point" I know you'll be aching to prove me wrong. Who shall we use to draft the contract(legal paper work). Or maybe your emotion is just a derivative from not having everyone agree with you as opposed to proving the point... hmmmm. I'm done here, no back and forth for me.

Thesis remains unchanged:
Risky people will do risky things, no matter what bike. Accidents will occur when people don't respect the bike no matter what cc size.
My thesis is that you are a moron. So if someone rides a 1000 miles without killing themselves, that proves what? Believe it or not, I actually understood what a contract was before you explained it to me. Your comment about your brother shows just how ignorant you really are. I hope you enjoy seeing him in the hospital & feel proud of your awesome intellect & advice for him. I'm not emotionally involved with any of your bullshit. I just get tired of know nothing idiots that make moronic comments as if they are the truth, when they are as far from it as they can be. You can believe it or not, but learning on an R type bike in the opinion of ANYONE that has real knowledge coupled with experience is a bad idea. For someone that is educated enough to actually know what a thesis is, your reading comprehension really sucks!

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Ugh, yes my grammar has been less than adequate as of late. I cannot believe I misspelled something written on the button I click so often. If you read my self quote you will read alot of grammatical errors as well, and I even checked over it several times before originally posting it.
I got called out by SVS the other day for "your" instead of "you're".

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This thread is a broken fucking record. Once a month someone like GI-John comes in, saying dumb people will do dumb things, respect the bike blah, blah... Just close the damn thread already.
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Last week, I was on my way through a two lane junction in the rush hour, in the outside lane on my CBR. The plonker at the front of the inside lane braked and threw his right indicator on at the last second. The car immediately behind him decided to change lane and go around him. What he did, was turn straight into the right side of my bike as I was going through. The bike and I got knocked a couple of feet sideways at the back end so I was pointing across the inside lane. Out of instinct to stay upright, the first thing I grabbed onto was the clutch. That was a good thing, 'cos I also grabbed the throttle bar and the bastard roared it's nuts off. I was in second and, if I hadn't grabbed that clutch first, old nag that she is, that bike would have took off and tossed me into oncoming traffic.

I had a bruised foot and a bent brake pedal........ it had dug in behind the idiots front bumper and luckily the bumper gave way first ..... Ripped it right off the car, in fact. I was happy enough to be relatively unhurt and my bike needing no more than a five minute spanner and hammer job to fix, that I told the driver he was lucky and next time to bloody look where he was going 'cos the next rider might not be so lucky and that he should piss off now before my good humour ran out, which he did once he got his bumper loaded into the car.

It was definitely something I sat and thought long upon, though. I'm of the opinion that, when you have a 'moment' on the road, regardless of whose fault it is whether it's a little twitch at the back wheel that gives you a jolt or one that makes your arse bite a chunk out of the seat, you should have a bloody good think about it afterwards and digest the 'what ifs'. 'If' I'd been riding that CBR and only had my license three weeks, would I have had the sense and instinct to lift my hand off the bar and grab the clutch first in the split second I was able to? To get a grip on my balance and keep it upright? I'm not saying that there was no luck involved ....... but you make your own luck by conscienciously gaining experience and riding with it every day.

I've had that CBR since I started riding 12 years ago ....... haven't the heart to get shut of it 'cos it's so much fun and a workhorse to boot ....... so I'm well acquainted with the bugger. I've ridden a 750 Gixxer before today and, to be sure, it was a feckin animal. Now I've got a SRAD in the garage of my own, waiting on some refurb calipers to arrive so I can get it roadworthy, insured and get out on it. One thing I'm absolutely certain of: Other posters are right ......... That is a fuck of a lot of bike to get things wrong on, or get a nasty surprise on, if you haven't at least got some experience honed instincts to protect you from yourself if shit happens......... and I don't care how much control anyone says they have between their brain and their wrist. When a car suddenly sideswiped me, all I had was luck and instinct to stop me taking off out of control.

A new rider doesn't have that ....... An old horse like my CBR could cause a lot of damage for a new rider in that situation. A 750 Gixxer would be a nightmare. I know there are riders who go out on R1's and Gixxer thou's from the start and manage to keep it together..... but asked if it's a good idea for the new rider? ...... That has to be a no ........ And it's not the 'snobbery of experience' that's talking there ....... It's just plain common sense.
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This thread is a broken fucking record. Once a month someone like GI-John comes in, saying dumb people will do dumb things, respect the bike blah, blah... Just close the damn thread already.
It's a head-fuck for sure ... Same shit , different bucket
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First bike I rode was a bored and stroked turbo busa with nos. It was stretched 18" too. You're all just a bunch of nancies
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First bike I rode was a bored and stroked turbo busa with nos. It was stretched 18" too. You're all just a bunch of nancies
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First bike I rode was a bored and stroked turbo busa with nos. It was stretched 18" too. You're all just a bunch of nancies
It's just that all of us want to keep the 1000's for ourselves & not let the noobs have any fun.
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I'll make a deal with ya, ya old fart. haha You buy my brother a new Busa. I'll pay for the turbo and we will give it to him(It'll be his first bike.) 1000 miles within a year enough to prove your point? If he crashes I pay you for the bike and then some. If he doesn't we keep the bike. Since you are so emotionally involved with this "point" I know you'll be aching to prove me wrong. Who shall we use to draft the contract(legal paper work). Or maybe your emotion is just a derivative from not having everyone agree with you as opposed to proving the point... hmmmm. I'm done here, no back and forth for me.

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Risky people will do risky things, no matter what bike. Accidents will occur when people don't respect the bike no matter what cc size.

Donít mean to impose on anything, my first bike is a k4 GSXR 750. I have been riding for about 6 weeks now. Had no experience at all. I travel 100km's a day work and back.
My family - mostly my uncles had superbikes...never got to ride or learn from them because they were R bikes and when I asked I always got turned down for years until I started to work and earn some moola and bought my own but I watched their every move, on the bends, acceleration, braking all there SR's etc while going for rally's and stuff. It's not how big bike you got it's how much control and grey matter you have between those ears . Why didn't Suzuki put a age limit and experience limit when they sell their bikes or any other R bike manufacturer.
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Your first post does have some validity to it, obviously you can get hurt/killed on any size bike. You ride over your head and bad things will happen. Period.

But had this girl on the 250 been riding with more experienced,or dare I say, intelligent riders, then maybe they would not have been going at a pace she could not handle. When I ride with noobs I lead yet allow them to set the pace. I also make sure that they know I will not leave them behind, and INSIST that they ride at their own pace. Even with experienced riders, we all let the slower guys set the pace or set up specific meeting points along the trip so everyone knows they will not be left behind.

This is where the experience pays off. Respect gets you no where. Fuck respect. It will not keep you safe. It will not prevent a noob from making a mistake. It will not prevent someone from reacting improperly, the only thing that will do that is experience, and sometimes that isn't even enough.
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Donít mean to impose on anything, my first bike is a k4 GSXR 750. I have been riding for about 6 weeks now. Had no experience at all. I travel 100km's a day work and back.
My family - mostly my uncles had superbikes...never got to ride or learn from them because they were R bikes and when I asked I always got turned down for years until I started to work and earn some moola and bought my own but I watched their every move, on the bends, acceleration, braking all there SR's etc while going for rally's and stuff. It's not how big bike you got it's how much control and grey matter you have between those ears . Why didn't Suzuki put a age limit and experience limit when they sell their bikes or any other R bike manufacturer.

Watching something being done by others will only get you so far ... I watch porn alot , doesnt make me any better in the sack I can tell ya !!!!

The only way to learn is the path layed out for others by the mistakes of those who choose not to follow , this has been well and truly covered , discussed and argued about ... Take the time to look thru here !!!
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Watching something being done by others will only get you so far ... I watch porn alot , doesnt make me any better in the sack I can tell ya !!!!

The only way to learn is the path layed out for others by the mistakes of those who choose not to follow , this has been well and truly covered , discussed and argued about ... Take the time to look thru here !!!
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