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post #81 of 98 (permalink) Old 05-16-2010, 09:35 AM
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I'm almost 26, had an HD Sportster 1200 for two years. I traded it two days ago for a 2002 GSX-R 1000. I have 20/40 with comp/collision, $250 deductable from progressive. My rate went from $31/mo to $110/mo. Eeep.
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post #82 of 98 (permalink) Old 09-04-2010, 03:24 AM
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First a little bit about me....
I grew up riding dirt bikes in the mountains of Tennessee. My first one was a 1981 Suzuki RM-80 I was 11 yrs old (I'm pushing 40). I rode the wheels off that bike. I got a 1985 or 86 Honda xr-200r after that. It was a good bike, dual carbs, fast for a 4 stroke. 1987 Kaw KX-125 was my last 2 wheeler. Then had a 4 wheeler. I didnt ride anything for years after about 1991, main reason was there was no where to ride on dirt where I moved to, plus busy with school and all... anyways.. In early '08 I got a wild hair up my ass and got my first street bike pictured at left. I will say this to all the noobs. Your best friend on any bike whether it be dirt or street is your confidence in your ability to ride, and knowing your limitations. Dont take unnecessary risks, it aint worth the potential consequences. And of course gear is very important too, if nothing else always wear a helmet and some sort or eye protection. riding in shorts is bad idea too.. not long after i got my gixxer I burnt the hell out of my leg on the exhaust while refueling. I wasnt paying attention and stepped back right onto the exhaust with my right calf. sustained a really nasty burn and I only touched it for a micro-second. I was shocked at how hot the pipe was... I'll never ride in shorts again. anyways.... Being afraid of a bike and attempting to ride street, with a lot of traffic is a very bad combination. I would also suggest to any rider on street, pretend you are invisible and stay alert! The road is full of careless people in their "cages" talking on cell phones, putting on makeup, eating, arguing.... the list goes on. If you have never been on a bike and are starting out on a streetbike, DO NOT get a sport bike. You would be much better off with a simple 250 if you are small framed person or even a scooter really until you get the basics down and get the feel of riding in traffic and how the bike handles on the street vs. on dirt. .. completely different animal!! If you are a bigger person something like a Suzuki S-40 is a good beginner bike. 650cc single, air cooled. very forgiving and has decent torque and will let you cruise interstate speeds comfortably all day long. My wife has riden before and she has a '07 S-40. All the bike she will ever need, although she wants a Can-Am Spyder real bad! When I got my bike I knew that it would be completely different than dirt. I rode around in my neighborhood for a few days getting the feel for the brakes, how it shifts and the overall feel of the power and how it handles before I got out in traffic. I was in Ft' Lauderdale at the time too... crazy traffic down in south florida!!! I would suggest doing the same thing as I did, even if you have a lot of dirtbike experience. Another important thing is remember a streetbike is meant to be ridden on two wheels not one. As much as I want to learn how to ride a wheelie for a mile at 80 mph I dont think I will ever attempt it. I cant think of a more foolish way to wreck a shiney new bike and more importantly mangleing my body than attempting stunts like that. I get my jollies from feeling the incredible acceleration and having fun going through the twisties is plenty fun for me. Now maybe if I had some old bike that I didnt pay that much money for I might try it but I'm not gonna risk it on mine. Maybe when its time to move onto a 750 or 1000 and I still have my 600 I'll play around with it but my bike has plenty more miles in it to try it before then!! I know my post wasnt that informative but maybe some of you can get something usefull out of it. Peace all! Have fun and be safe!!
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Parapraphs are your friend.
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post #84 of 98 (permalink) Old 09-05-2010, 01:59 AM
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yeah my bad, thanks for tip
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post #85 of 98 (permalink) Old 09-13-2010, 01:05 PM
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good writeup mostly, my first bike is a 2004 GSXR 600 and I'm still alive so that would be the only thing I don't agree with. Gear is a definite must and don't get anything too nice because it will spend some time on the ground in the first couple months typically. I did the MSF course and it was totally worth the investment of my time and money, I would probably have a different story to tell if I never did the course.
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post #87 of 98 (permalink) Old 12-06-2010, 06:33 PM
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My first post.

I am 33 years old. Never rode a bike a day in my life. Not even dirt bikes. Some friends ride so I decided to get a bike to hang out with them. They have what people would consider starter bikes. I don't know why but I just couldn't bring myself to start on anything but what I got. I purchased a 2004 Honda CBR 600rr. It looks great but it scares the mess out of me. I have had it less than a week. Only rode around my neighborhood so far. Very unskilled. I have had it less than a week and already dropped it on a slow left turn. I have frame sliders so it didn't do any damage. It scared me and shocked me how heavy the bike was. I wasn't injured. Trying to teach myself doesn't seem like a really good idea so im going to start looking for a class. My local college does something I think. Learning to ride has been more difficult then I thought it would be. Turning and breaking have been my weak points. I drive a manual transmission car(WRX STI ) so have no problem with that aspect.

I dropped the bike because I tried to make a sharp left turn. I slowed down too much and rather than pulling in the cluch I let the bike die. When it died I panicked and it fell over on the left side. Glad the previous owner had frame sliders. I have never felt more like a noob than when I dropped my bike riding in my neighborhood. Very embarrassing.
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This is all good info. I was hit in 1989 and haven't ridden until October. It scared the shit out of me!! So I took a basic rider course at my local community college. $295...8 hours in the classrom and 8 hours on the range on their bikes, 250 Nighthawks. It came with an endorsement for your license, upon completion anyway. Riding came back to me immediately. It was just soooo worth the money to get my "sealegs" back under me before riding on the streets again. Especially on a Gixxer!! I suggest these type classes to everyone.
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go by the old saying that was drummed into me while i was learning .... Hope for the best , but expect the worst !!!!
will serve you well as it has me ....
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Something I was told by my father along time ago helps me greatly. Before you go to bed at night think about a skill you need to work on, or think about something that is not normal about rideing, for example the fact that you turn the wheel the opposite direction of the turn. Now lay in bed and play it over and over in your head. Think of it in detail. How the clutch is feeling, how much gas you are giveing it, how the road looks, and what you hear. Then think of something jumping into the road. Whatever you want it to be, a ball a truck a kid anything. Then think about what you have to do to avoid it. You must pick your dirrection and make the bike follow that path. Do not concentrate on the object. Target fixation is a great trick your mind likes to play to get you to hit what you are looking at. So make mental notes of everything that you are going to be doing.
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This is a great read! This site has some really good info! I just decided to pick up an 08 GSX-R750 black on black since I've been looking for one for a while and found one local. I grew up riding a 125 and 250 enduro so I'm no stranger to dirt or street but I never feel safe in the city around a lot of traffic and I don't think anything will make me feel safe when it's the other "people" on the road that are the danger.

Anyway, it's nice to be riding again and I look forward to riding all over hell this summer! Oils changed and we're waiting at the garage door \/

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post #92 of 98 (permalink) Old 05-29-2011, 12:21 AM
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Phenomenal write up, always down to take a few pointers from someone who actually knows what they're talking about. Well done sir.
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Something I was told by my father along time ago helps me greatly. Before you go to bed at night think about a skill you need to work on, or think about something that is not normal about rideing, for example the fact that you turn the wheel the opposite direction of the turn. Now lay in bed and play it over and over in your head. Think of it in detail. How the clutch is feeling, how much gas you are giveing it, how the road looks, and what you hear. Then think of something jumping into the road. Whatever you want it to be, a ball a truck a kid anything. Then think about what you have to do to avoid it. You must pick your dirrection and make the bike follow that path. Do not concentrate on the object. Target fixation is a great trick your mind likes to play to get you to hit what you are looking at. So make mental notes of everything that you are going to be doing.
If you are preparing for a big race and during practice sessions you should be thinking the abilities you can do. You should be thinking and preparing for the possible circumstances during practice and during the race you will be involved at. Some riders do practice in there dreams as well it may sound a bit silly but that's how serious other riders are. Every detail from the track, terrain to the timing of the brakes and the sound of the wheels.
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Good read - I'm investing in riding gear after watching the Semper Ride video and reading this thread.

I wear full-face helmet and steel toe boots with ankle support but need the jacket/kevlar inserts, pants, and double plastic goves.

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post #96 of 98 (permalink) Old 12-16-2014, 08:09 AM
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Good info!!!
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Start by going in a straight line an putting pressure on one of the pegs. Push your foot down hard on the left peg, the right. You will see hat the slight change in weight makes the bike swirve. It really is that simple. Now, do this for at least 10 - 15 hours on the bike time.
Personally I'd recommend riders to learn to steer using the handle bars, and understand counter-steering. You shouldn't need to use the foot-pegs or be leaning to steer a bike...
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Beautifully written! Thanks!
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